I would go with the Alexia or Sasha 2 and save the 10k!Either of these I think would be a nice upgrade from your Sophia’s.I own Watt Puppy’s and would choose one of those for an upgrade for myself also.Both are great choices!Good luck and have fun!
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I upgraded from the Sophia 1 to the Sasha 2 (passed on the Alexia 1); this was an appreciable across-the-board sonic improvement + easier to drive, while maintaining a similar footprint / height, at a reasonable cost - no diminishing returns here, it's worth the upgrade. The Tweeter & Midrange Resistor options + Head adjustments made a big difference in fine tuning the Sasha 2 to my listening room, vs. the Sophia 1.
In my experience, prior to the Alexia 2, the Sasha 2 seemed to be the preferred model over the Alexia 1, for a mid-size room.
If cost is a factor, then the cost difference between a well-discounted pair of Sasha 2, vs the near-retail cost of the new Sasha DAW may be greater than the evolutionary (not revolutionary) sonic improvements merit . . . . .
The Alexia to me would have the nod, IF!!! you have the amp to drive them?? As they are a pig of an amplifier load down to 0.9ohm EPDR in the bass.
The Sasha 1’s were just as bad, and the Sasha 2’s are said to be a little better, but I've seen no graphs on these so that can't be verified, only the 1’s.
If you still have the Proceed Amp5 as an amp, this has no chance to drive the Alexia or the Sasha1 properly, and a ? with the Sasha 2’s
Forget the dB efficiency, you have the watts regardless, more important here is the current ability of the amp, and you have that too.
You have the amplification, then out of the ones in your title, the Alexia 1 would be the choice.
But I have heard the Alexia 1 and then the Alexia 2 and the two is even better again.
Actually having only heard the Alexia 2 (though the price is out of my range), I assumed that the Alexia 1 would be very good, not A2 good but great for a speaker in that range.
I got a chance to hear the DAW and A2 in the same room, the DAW stood up very well for itself. The A2 was slightly more filled out. The tops and mids were very similar.
New I would not take the hit. I can say hearing the DAW they were impressive. I own the Sophia 1 and would look towards the used market myself. That being said the Wilson step up is huge in that area. WATT's go around a grand a series. Sophia 3 still holding at around 9k+ mark and its a step up but not worth the investment to dollar ratio for me. Sasha 1 at 14k area and then its off to the races your next play is 18k if you can find the Yvette used .. The Alexia's are a great speaker but the series two is A LOT better .. Financing helps if you can get them on credit . The Wilson ladder is steep
I think it might be a few years before a used set of DAW are on the market.
Still teetering on the Sasha 2 vs Alexia 1. Seems the better value in the used market right now. These would be factory certified used to take advantage of the trade in route. I could sell the Sophie 1 on my own, and buy a true private party used.
@adsell What did you end up doing? I'm in a very similar boat. I'm actually trying to decide which upgrade for Sophia 2 - Sasha 1 or Sasha 2, or maybe wait for Alexia.
Sasha 1 = 13k
Sasha 2 = 18k
Alexia 1 = ?? maybe 22k.
Did you pull the trigger, and what are your thoughts?
My room is 14x21 with 10' ceilings. I use ARC ref 3 and Ref 75 (w KT 150s) for power.
Anyone have additional thoughts.
Is the Sahsa 2 basically the Alexia one with less scale, bass/impact, but very similar voice, etc?
Is Sahsa 2 closer to Sasha 1 or Alexia 1 in voice, transparency, stage?
I have not pulled the trigger just yet, I have been thinking very hard about getting the DAW and being done with it, but then I heard the yvette the other day as I was just stopping through the hood. They have a pair of DAW on consignment\trade in. Good price with my trade in, but thinking about the Yvette very seriously. Seems well liked speaker too.
I am definitely off of the Alexia 1, wagon, just too big for my room if I am honest.
Sasha 2 or Yvette or DAW.
The consignment DAW are Titan Red (burgundy) so not my favorite color...but I could learn to like the color I suppose.
The Yvette has a little less impact the S 2, being double the woofer, fills out pretty nice, with the highs and mids about the same, maybe a little sweeter than the Sasha 2. So kind of a trade off.
Room is a great room style house, not ideal. basic floor space is 26x31, but its not a square its more like and L shaped swimming pool with 9' ceilings. Kitchen, dining room, living room. All in the same space, the System is in a corner of this space, lots of things to break up sounds from reflections but its uneven. Best thing I did was buy a Trinnov Altitude 16, its room correction software is the best with its crazy microphone.
I've heard the original Alexia's bass sound terrible in the wrong rooms but very close to perfect in the right room, which left me with the impression that they're more room fussy than average. I haven't heard the DAW but from all reports they're close to Alexia 2 in performance in a more compact enclosure. And having heard Alexia 2, that performance is currently the benchmark for 3-way domestic speakers imo.
The best sounding bass I ever had in my room was on my old arteluthe cadenza which had a frequency response to 19hz. Bass was not muddy. A local audiophile came to listen and said the bass was incredible. This coming from a guy who’s owned several 100k systems. I know my room does not really have issues with bass. Oh and my JBL 4367 sound wonderful in my room as well.
The big problem with the Alexia 1 speakers is that it presents a very difficult load. The impedance drops down to
Well, as life is sometimes; unexpected.
The motor in my daily driver\track car blew, I have been spending all my speaker money on go fast bits and tuning. Installed a "built" motor, bigger turbo, secondary fueling, high torque clutches...bla bla bla.
When I am not listening to music I can be found listening to music of a different kind, on the track.
Quoting gochurchgo above:
i got to also hear those giant Alexxia 2’s driven by stacks of Naim gear and it sounded bad.
I still cant believe it.
I can believe it, and would not attribute this to the Wilson's, rather they very clearly highlight the limitations of Naim Audio gear.
The Alexia 2, Sasha 2 and DAW are all highly resolving capable speakers which definitely require top quality upstream signal and power implementation.
Bumping this again, as I'm still in the same conundrum.
I've ~$35k (on the USED market) for:
-Amplification (integrated or separates)
(cables will be Transparent Gen 5 Ultra and source is Lumin T1)
The only speakers I am considering/want are: Alexia, Sasha 2 or Yvette.
I would LOVE Alexia, but I can't think of a good integrated or pre/amp for 10k on the used market to drive them as they deserve. Maybe Pass Labs INT-250 could get me started. Maybe Simaudio Moon 700i (doubt it) - thoughts?
So, I'm leaning toward Sasha 2 with better power (thinking Pass Labs or ARC pre and XA60.8 mono blocks).
Anyone hear that combo, or think that wouldn't be enough grunt to push the Sasha 2s? I don't believe (based on JA's Alexia review in Sterophile) that the XA60.8 would be enough for Alexia.
Also considering Yvette with Pass or Simaudio 700i.
What would you do, and why? Would love to hear your thoughts on the above. Thanks!
My Yvettes will be here for Christmas !! Dealer let me audition them in home for 4 weeks. I also auditioned Rockport Atria IIs in home for 4 weeks. I could not live with the beryllium tweeters in the Rockports. The soft dome in the Yvettes are smooth and did not burn my ears off, like the beryllium tweeter of the Rockports.
You do need power/current to drive either speaker. My Pass XA160.8s do so effortlessly.
It took me since Axpona 2016, to rebuild my system after being a Spectral owner for 20 years. The Yvettes are replacing 14 year old Avalon Opus speakers.
This will be my final system in my 31 year journey of chasing High End audio; unless I win a Large lottery. My wife laughs at me and says that I am lying. I swear, This is my final system. I could upgrade one of the phonostages though. Maybe ?
I wish everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Has anyone bought Wilsons online and had to do the setup yourself? Would live to know I’d it could managed. Also are dealers or other professionals available to offer set up service?
I’d like to take a poll of Wilson owners who’ve had great success with placement, and get an idea of your distance from side wall and rear wall. My room is the normal rectangle 20’ x 35”, living room, dinning room, kitchen with a bump out from middle of the long wall which is the bathroom. My system is tucked the corner, with the Right speaker positioned near French glass doors with heavy curtains. My listening position is about 8’ away.
I currently have and really love my Sasha 2s driven by Mac MC-152 and C-50 pre-amp. The 152 is not a top of the line Mac but does a sweet job of driving the S2s so I don't feel they are particularly hard to drive. My room is small and I don't like very high db levels but it is a spectacular combination IMO. It is hard to go wrong with any Wilson speaker above the Sasha 2. Lower than Sasha line, to me, does not get the job done and is too much of a compromise.
Good thread. In exactly the same spot now. Will be doing a listening session at the local Wilson dealer between Sasha DAW and the Alexia Series 2.
Here’s the thing: I can get either a NEW Sasha DAW or an approximately 2-year-old USED Alexia Series 2 for the approximately the same price. (Really excited about the Alexia Series 2, honestly.)
Already heard the Sasha DAW paired with D’Agostino Progression Stereo amp (driven by dCs Bartok DAC/DSM/Pre-Amp) and was gob-smacked--even without a "full-fledged" pre-amp. Was previously looking at the Sonus Faber Amati Traditions, as I already committed money to the Mcintosh C2700/MC462 stack and SF "pair well", I’ve been told. But was never honestly engaged by the SF--as musical and beautiful as they sound.
Enter Wilson. When I demoed the Sasha DAWs, they grabbed me and never let go for the full 90 minutes I was leveled to the listening couch. I noticed vocal separation for the first time on tracks I’ve heard 50+ times.
Never heard the Alexia 2s, but, again, will in a few days against the DAWs.
Is there any down-side to getting USED Alexia Series 2s over NEW Sasha DAWs if each is the SAME price? The dealer is tight with Wilson, having been the location of past National Debuts of a couple of Wilson’s products, so the used Alexias would be fully restored, overhauled and have their certification complete with full Wilson warranties.
Seems like a no-brainer, right? Somebody stop me!