D’agostino preamp - unfortunate its SS?

Kind of disappointing this is almost an exact repeat of this thread:



https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/dagostino-hd-momentum-is-lack-of-rubes-a-problem

Buy something else. Post something different instead of a rerun

Tubes sound better to music lovers so how does dag succeed in doing a ss preamp presumably bought by music lovers?

a good question.

You still won't stop asking this senseless question? Wake up! He doesn't make tube gear and never has. Look elsewhere!

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/dagostino-hd-momentum-is-lack-of-rubes-a-problem

Clearly, a lack of rubes IS a problem!

apparently Nelson Pass has it all wrong too.  Amazing these guys can even stay in business, right?  (sarcasm font applied).  

@roxy54

You still won’t stop asking this senseless question? Wake up!

i have stopped substantively replying to this poster

not the sharpest pencil... or just pranking to get a rise... reminds me of a few other usernames that have gone dormant now that this one is used for such utter foolishness

Kinda disappointing.

can a tube sound be recreated with a ss preamp?  Are tubes preferred?

Wasn't there just a thread about laying off the newbies.  Somewhere in the thread someone said "there are no dumb questions".   Close your eyes, click your heels together and you'll be transported to a universe where that's true.

Tubes! I love em! But I also dont Jam out like I used too. If all I listened to was mainly hard rock and classic rock and I wanted to listen really loud then all SS gear is probably going to give me what im looking for. But now that im a bit older I find myself listening to more Jazz and Blues. I have gone through several SS and tubed pre amps over the years, one thing remains constant for me though is my speakers (Dynaudio Contour 3.0) and amplifier (McIntosh MC352). Tubes inject tonal beauty with sustain and decay like no SS pre amp can, with that said, Tubes tend to not slam or hit as hard as solid state. THERE it is!


Matt M

>>  Are tubes preferred? <<
Not by me.

Good solid state gives up nothing to tube equipment, they are just slightly different sounds and both are valid, but i have found you never want to mix the two due to too frequent mismatches.

D.A. audio equipment and tube sound…. Hmmmm…. I’m guessing this sounds fast, deep bass, forward, with midrange bloom so to speak…. In my limited experience, this would be something like any big Krell amp, connected to some big Apogee speakers, with a sub that can go deep, like a REL with a steep 18dB roll off at say 50hz or below I’m guessing would do the trick. Any big Apogee flat panel can make any amp sound like it has tube flavor to it; in fact IMHO, the more neutral sounding, the better; regarding fowardness, these speakers can soften a bit of the forward-ness of Krell-like gear, which leads to, at least for me, a less fatiguing listening experience when listening for longer periods. The sub will bring the deep bass in as a flat panel speaker just doesn’t dip down into deep bass like a cone driver can. Wasted writing, maybe…. Likely….. Anyways, that’s my wooden nickel’s worth of input, hah!

onhwy61,
I'm fine with "going easy on newbies", but I have also decided that there is such a thing as a stupid question, especially when asked twice, as the OP has done here.

Not the same question. Dont like my post? Dont answer.

good responses herein, helpful.  
So y u so hot and bothered???

jumia,
It IS the same question, and a stupid one. I'm not hot or bothered, but you should learn to write instead of using silly teenage texting abbreviations.

Tubes are preferred by people who prefer tubes. Those people sometimes but don't usually buy solid state amps. Other people love solid state amps they buy solid state amps. D'Agostino makes solid state amps for customers who love solid state amps, and likely a few who love tubes. But D'Agostino does NOT make tube amps we call this a design choice.  Period, end of story, move on.

Movin to North Dakota.  

Thank you jond, and enjoy North Dakota jumia. I hope they don't have internet service where you move.

Oh know, no internet, cant stream, cant move now.

have to rethink all this.


 

How much is lost if one chooses DAG vs what a tube pre has to offer?

Can anyone speak to this potential DAG shortcoming?

Your asking a question, then answering by asking/stating the answer with another one???

My answer to you is, "if" the DAG preamp was bettered by a tube one, it’s because the tube one was coloring/masking something else in the system (source/s) that wasn't to your liking, and the dag pre showed them/it up like a microscope, it would probably been even similar or more also if a passive pre was used.
I suggest it could be your source/s as you use a lot of HT processing and movie stuff which let’s face it🤢

Cheers George

I hope they don't have internet service where you move.

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