cost no object integrated amps

@audioinfidel - do you own the ypsilon integrated?on paper by specs it looks slightly lower on the power side

@p3ga  my take is, nagra is awesome but excel in separates more than integrated space and they have some good external power supply as well.

at a macro level it looks like the swiss makers are the top of the game
nagra
dartzeel
soulution
ch precision

@jafant  the ayre amps have a beautiful and engaging presentation, very musical and sweet but i think it lacks an authority in the bass area

thank you @duckworp for the sonic description of vitus sia 30. definitely confidence inspiring to consider sia 30 

thank you 

@bvdiman  @audioman58  @georgehifi @palbrecht1 @kren006. gryphon seems a crowd favorite as well.heard it has darker backgrounds, great bass and is a dynamic and muscular amp.

can someone comment on high frequency rendition for gryphon diablo 300

@thieliste 
yes HUMBOLDT no doubt should be much better than their other integrated and may be also better than their separates pre-g2 and max.
does any one know how it compares to any other brands like dan d'agostino momentum or even say CH separates L1 / A1.5 mono's or ypsilon phaeton silver edition(50k).
anything to understand comparatively. although the design and engineering specs look impeccable, there are not much reviews i can find.

@highend666 not about any game changer amp. but trying to understand the high end market on integrated amps.if any of the one's are as good as separates, it might be worth switching , considering the cost of good power and IC cables

@mickeyb - Jeff Rowland daemon is interesting.by specs alone its a monster
@georgehifi - yes have always heard good things about gryphon diablo 300, it can be in the league in terms of power but not sure whether in refinement
@alucard19 @tms0425 i do not think boulder 866 and vinnie rossi are in the same league but definitely good in their segment
@pokey77  t+a is definitely interesting and worth considering

@infection

@thebingster

@gestalt

@duckworp

can one of you or each of you help in describing the sonic output of these amps (vitus sia-30 or dartzeel or others). i know its system dependent but as much as you can

for example d’augustino momentum ,luxman are characterized as sweet, musical, bit laid back , less solid state ,slightly tuby etc etc

everyone has their preferences but i am looking for an amp that is less sweet , less warm ,less colored, more detail and resolution oriented.

its ok if its a little dry or clinical or analytical to obtain a high degree of resolution , clarity , details air, separation, crystalline, clean and crisp highs/treble

i definitely don’t want to end up with a warm and sweet amp in the name of making it sound analogish or removing the harshness or fatigue.

at this point, from my point of view iam going to omit d’augustino.
as much as i am a wilson owner and dag has great synergy its bit on the sweet and warm side.
i also omitting any hybrids and tubes as i want something for 24 x7 robust operation

iam going to tier classify my list again

segment A
1. audionet HUMBOLDT (55k)
2.  soulution 530 (49k)
top of the price list and both have received exceptional praise and have great build quality and performance, outstanding specs and power as well and is accepted universally.but definitely could be an overreach and price is hard to justify for an integrated

segment B
1. dartzeel CTH-8550 (30k)
2. ch precision I1 (38k)
both dartzeel and ch precision are outstanding swiss makers with stellar build quality.they look more lifestyle products and might lack muscularity compared to others.but definitely have great clarity and articulation 

segment C
gryphon diablo 300
t+a pa 3100 hv
these both are the best value & over achievers in high end integrated amps, gryphon is crowd favorite
can someone help describe t+a pa 3100 hv sonics in terms of rendition of highs/treble , lows/bass ,clarity , detail ,separation of instruments, warmth

segment of its own :
last but not the least vitus SIA 30.all round positive comments .price around 40k USD.outstanding specs.looks like both muscular and articulate amp in performance. 30w of class A should keep the room warm.great flexibility for switch to class AB as well of 200w 8ohms/400 w 4 ohms. from denmark , recently launched.not sure about the reliability of it but rest all looks good.

@gestalt i know fremor uses dartzeel monoblocks and i know they have stellar performance.
the question is whether the integrated would be to that level or not at their starting price point.
tonally they might be very similar and also might be similar in voicing and clarity.
question is their wattage on integrated is on the lower side and iam not sure if the integrated will have good bass performance for the wilsons.

also it would be great to know if someone did a comparison between dartzeel integrated and ch precision i1

so far from what iam hearing is audionet humboldt seems to be top contender for cost no object integrated.as it is cut out of the same dna of stern and heisenberg separates and looks like a great piece of engineering.
does somebody have thoughts and notes on how humboldt sounds compares to vitus or even grphon mephisto or CH separates.
 

does anyone here own audionet humboldt or has demoed or listened extensively and critically to it.
can someone describe the sonic characteristics or compare to any other amps they have listened or owned.
also if some one can pitch in on how it compares to MAX monoblocks with pre-g2 preamp combo