Cons of using main XLR/Balanced outs for subwoofer?

@cardani  : 5 subs, so your Vandersteen and your main amp are really happy hadling the mid/high frequency ranges, good.

If you can connect a decent amplifier maybe coming from one of your friends instead the Dayton and se what happens.

Bryston know perfectly its products and I insist that contact them directly along that other amp tests..

R.

Dear @rlb61  : You own very good two-way speakers with a " little " trouble and this is that crossover at 2khz so the woofer runs frequencies from around 35hz to over 2khz and no matters what that facts says that the IMD and THD distortion levels are higher than desired to listen MUSIC.

I know that you are not really happy with your JL sub:

"""   I’ve concluded that a subwoofer is not necessary in every application where a 2 way speaker is used  .. """

by the contrary the conclusion is the other way around: with a two way speaker design subs always are need it.

I know too that your room is not to big but this does not avoid the sub use or integration.

The first premise to add subwoofer to any system is that must be a pair of self powered subwoofers and never only one unit, this is not the way to go. You need a pair of subs and if you follow the information in the link I posted you will be way satisfied with.

Now, adding a pair of subs running in stereo way is not plug and play we need time and patience and if you have it then you will have success.

Your Pulsar will shines as never before and you will have all the frequency ranges at the higher quality level performance you can imagine: really good an accurated bass range handled by dedicated woofers and dedicated amplifiers and the same in the mid/high ranges where your main amps will performs better than ever when are not running low frequencies that diminish its overall quality performance and headroom, now you will have pristine and addictive Pulsar MUSIC sound reproduction. Remember, you need two subs.

As I said in other post: is up to you.

R.

Dear @zdw11 @cardani  :  I can see that both of you are running your main speakers/subs to listen MUSIC ( at least do not posted for HT. ).

Now in the Ohm speakers the sub is part of the speaker ( I don't know forsure all the subs controls to operation. ).

If we want to listen in specific MUSIC through our room/system and want to add subwoofers the rigth way to do it is that those pair of true self powered subwoofers crossover ( should be. ) around 80hz-90hz but this crossover frequency is not only for the low-pass subs but we need and should be that the main speakers been too crossing around that frequency with the high-pass filter and in this waythat room/system will takes a true advantages to add subs to listen MUSIC because in that way the main speakers will be handling frequencies from 80-90hz and up and the IMD and THD distortion levels that existed in those passive speakers goes really lower in benefit of higher sound reproduction quality level and at the same time that room/system will handled with accuracy the low bass range and even can goes lower in that range.

Due that I don't know of the overall Ohm speaker operation then I could be wrong with but with the other gentleman that's the rigth way to integrates subwoofers to MUSIC soun reproduction as our main system use.

Here a link about:

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/do-you-think-you-need-a-subwoofer/post?postid=310058#310058


Of course that one thing is what " should be " and the other what we like/want so in this specific subject everything is up to you and this post is only an opinion and nothing more.

R.

Dear @cardani : " Two of these op-amps are to buffer the signal to the tape output and level control, the remaining four for the two balanced outputs. These integrated circuits are specified as delivering high output with low noise. "

that comes from the design in your Bryston. So the problem could comes from that Dayton unit.

Now you said: " higher noise floor ". Could you detected around wich frequency of that " noise floor " ?

In my system I run my two subs from the balanced preamp outputs and the main amplifiers running with the unbalanced outputs and both performs with no single trouble/noise or the like but with very high quality level performance.

Even that your Bryston is not a today model it’s and has very good design as everything Bryston puts in the market, seems to me that noise floor level is not developed by a " failure " in the unit design because outputs are buffered.

If that noise floor is really high then that ISO MAX can helps. In the other side you can always contact directly to Bryston asking for advise in that issue.
:  https://bryston.com/#contact-form

R.

Dear @zdw11 :  as @imhififan  posted go a head no problem at all and you don't need to make any added mods.

Btw, did you try it? if not then do it and you will be the best judge about. Don't worry you can't damage nothing with that set up.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.