Coincident Super Eclipse or Devore Nines?

Hmm - the questions sounds awfully similar to this one:

Audiogon Forum: Coincident Eclipse vs Devore

both speakers are pretty balanced. your room and placement is the real deal here.

Are your speakers wired internally with Extreme cable? If not, that will definitely bring the sound forward. Also, I think that Coincident cable in general present a pretty revealing picture. I've been using the Extreme ICs and the CST1 speaker cables and like them very much.

Hi, yes it has the extreme wiring. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy them very much just wondering if the DEvores would be different? Also, have not tried tube amp yet. Thanks

I agree with Chayro.Already having extreme wiring in your speakers,there is alot to be gained by having extreme speaker cable and interconnects.Should bring the sound more forward and further decrease any veil that you may have and not realise is there.
Switching to the devores (harder to drive)would cause a dead end ampwise and tubes, IMO would give you the mids(perhaps a 300b) you seem to be looking for.

Arbuckle,
I have had Super e III's and now have PE II's, I have a Cary Sli-80 and my mids and highs are plenty forward. I am the one that started the other thread that is referred to. I was looking for something less forward in the Devore not more. You could change out wires as others suggest, Extreme wiring will bring out more of what you want.
I rolled tube in my amp until I got what I wanted, but you can't do that. I think the Coincident are some of the best speakers out their and your model allows for a lot of experimentation with different types of amps. I have had more than one pair of Coincident because I would sell them looking for something better and ultimately end up back where I started YMMV.
Mike

Nines my friend.... this is not even worth stressing... It's a tonally an upgrade to Coincidents, which are fine in their own right to be sure...., but not on par with Nines based on my listening experience which included 4 different tube set-ups prior to purchase.... Enjoy!!

Ok, I don't think it is the amp as I have had this one on Proacs and the sound I wanted was there, so it is not the amps........ I ordered some Nordost Red Dawn speaker cables, I'll try this and see what happens!

the easiest 'tonal upgrade' in the world is scooting those 'super' speakers around so they give you their best, which is pretty incredible.

I have recently upgraded to the DeVore Nines and use the Pass Labs XA-30.5 amp and X-1 preamp in a fairly large room (25x14). I've been in high end audio for 25 years, and have tried so many different combinations, but I can honestly say this gives me goose bumps...I am serious that it will complete your quest. See my other threads regarding the Nines and Pass Labs amps. I use this with the Esoteric X-03SE and custom Audio Path silver 8 wire from Tom Hills at Hudson Audio. No words can describe it...

I just auditioned the 9's yesterday with Border Patrol valve amps. Not an ideal set up in the showroom, but I was most impressed, very detailed, neutral and transparent. I just tried Coincident Victories and my preference was very much, for the Devores, beautiful to look at too and small, room friendly

David12,

So how did they compare to your Adagios'?
Thanks
Mike

Mike, unfortunately, I heard the Devore's in a showroom, so no direct comparison to my Zens. I did compare with another speaker of interest to me the Art Emotion Signature. I was shocked how poor the Emotion's sounded in comparison, boxy, congested and lacking the refined highs of the Devore. I suspect the new Art Deco's are a lot better and nearer the Devore's, but a lot more costly too.
It struck me listening to them, that the reviews on 6moons etc have nailed it. The Devore 9's do'nt shout listen to me, they are just soo refined, accurate, neutral and detailed, really relaxing to listen to. Others have said that if a new item sounds dramatically good, there is probably something wrong with it, it is not neutral and will pale on you with time.
The Acoustic Zen's are similar in many ways, neutral across the frequency spectrum, accurate, very enjoyable to listen to. The Devore's just do it better, but so they should, they are more expensive. The Devore's sound like they are, a superficially convential speaker, but designed and built with great care, voiced by listening to them, not by computers