Since that remark about being some lacky for Clement was directed at me, I feel obliged to respond.
Who ever you are, I suggest you think twice before posting such BS. It makes you sound border line paranoid/schyzo (sp)
You know nothing about me or my rig, Clem is a good friend who demands nothing but honesty from the people around him. He has surounded himself with bright, savy audiophiles who have done a great deal to help him achieve the astonishing result he he enjoys. By following that model, the ability to keep an open mind towards those opinions rendered by people I respect, NOT people that agree with me, I hope I have achieved a measure of success.
In the future, unless we meet and you get to know me, AND hear my system, please keep your assumptions to your self. Yours truly, Greg |
My name is Greg Petan, I work with Clement at the Stereotimes.
I first heard the sunny speakers in Clements system with which I am very familiar. I have always marveled at the high level of quality sound Clement has managed from a less than optimum listening space. Yes, The Behold electronics with which I share in my system have a great deal to do with completing the delicate balance achieved. The Dali's were terrific. That ribbon is really magic.
HOWEVER.....After a few short moments in front of the Sunny, I got that uneasy felling that every thing was about to change. Like Clement, I lost no love over horn designs. Nor have I been a fan of large diameter bass drivers. The thought of combining the two was hardly a peanut butter in my chocolate moment. Yet The trick pulled off by the Sunny is mind blowing. There is a cohesive top to bottom balance, seamless bass to mid band transition and an open upper mid range and treble I have never experienced, any were. Then there are the dynamics offered up from the horn and the ease provided by the very high sensitivity. I will not go to much further as I am reviewing the model just below Clement's that use a 15"woofer in place of the 18" in his.
Whether there is a huge audience for these speakers is besides the point. As far as I am concerned, Sunny is a visionary, a purist unrelenting in applying everything he knows in the effort to solve the problems with speakers as he sees them to be. The fact that he has succeeded as he has is news that is well worth exploring. Like Clement, I welcome visitors to my SOHO loft. Feel free to contact me through Stereotimes. PS....please see my review of the Sunny 1000 series wire. Greg Petan, Managing Editor/Stereotimes |
It tells you Clement has a great ear and eye for discovering great products overlooked by other publications(Look at Behold electronics and Nova acoustics memory player for instance). Also, as mentioned earlier that We somehow are getting these Sunny products for free for the honor of a review, Sunny Cable has one of the tightest margin for reviewer discount I have ever seen in this biz. Trust me, They are not giving there stuff away.
It may be fun to throw those kind of statements around, perhaps it makes you feel like you are a bit more important and "in the know" than you may actually be. But remember, You may be hurting someone who has dedicated their life and considerable resources to make our lives just a little bit more enjoyable. Sure there are duche bag manufacturers out there. But in 15 years of pressing flesh, the VAST majority I have met have been honest, sincere music loving peers, trying to do the right thing. Your truly, Greg |
Sir Speedy.....You are correct, my room 33X60X14H is a bear to get right. I have gone through a great deal of pain to get to this point. The Sunny is far more effortless and dynamic and transparent than my Dynaudio Evidence Master. They Go deeper and tighter for sure, are more open on top and all through the mid band and play louder with less strain as well.
For those familiar with the Evidence, you will agree, this is no small accomplishment. Greg |
"I'm sorry i have nothing more too add".....How true. |
Glad to see this thread moving along. A couple thoughts.
I have been reviewing for around thirteen years. I can say without too much after thought that the Sunny speakers are by far the best i have heard any were. I have the Dynaudio Master reference, and good lord, they don't even come close.
Was I happy the Sunny's were that much better? Yes. Was I thrilled about having to sell off speakersI had just bought? Was I thrillled about burning in a new set of speakers and tweeking, running room corection and tiping and toeing in 600lb speakers? No. Not to mention trying to sell my wife on why we needed giant black phone booths in place of the lovely Danish fashion models we had posing in our living room. I simply do not have the energy to go through all of this for an incremental improvement or trading a little of this for a little of that.
Don't cry for me, for sure. But why on earth would I go through all of this if I was not sincerely moved by the musical expereince? Even If Sunny offered me 50,60-70% off retail, why would I go through all of that work and take up with an inferior product? Does not add up.
Sire speedy, please feel free to e-mail me and arrange for another visit. as well as any one else that is in the NY NJ area.I want as many people to hear these as possible. They deserve as wide an audience as possible. Greg |
Sir speedy....look up Clements trip to France on Stereotimes.com It should be in the Show coverage section. There you will see pics of the horn speakers and the rest of the system and the room it resides along with a detailed description of Clements experience. Best, G |
The dealer is in Brooklyn. Laufer Teknik. Clement Perry has the larger version of the ones I am running.
From the dynaudio, I only re ran the room correction for the sunny. All wire is Sunny 1000 as is the power conditioner. The power chords on the amp and preamp, are from new manufacturer we will be hearing about shortly.
I was not at the vegas show so I cannot say how they sounded there. Best, Greg |
Hey all......The issue of room correction hovers above any analysis of my system by those who come through here. Heck, it has taken me quite some time to come to a few conclusions.
1-It is called room correction, not speaker correction. There is no way on this earth I could get the Dynaudio's to sound like the Sunny if given a decade to make it happen. If there is a problem with the speaker, it will be there no matter what.
2-I am always willing to bypass correction. It still sounds great, if narrower, smaller and brighter among other effects. It is with a bit of time the education takes place and the benefits become far to important to ignore.
3-I have had a few people come through who own serious contemporary gear. The response to the sound has been a state of shock. Not because the sound was a little better here or a bit more transparent there. The sound with the Sunny/behold combination offers something I had never heard before, any were, from any other combination of gear.
4-When I hear every speaker on the planet in my room and have had time to get the best out of them, I will declare the Sunny the best. Until then, I will have to stick with the saying the Sunny is the best I have heard.
As for motives and entanglements, there are many, too many manufacturers out there that thought we were "aligned with them" as a result of writing positively about their gear and or the willingness to advertise on the site-only to be snapped into reality when we honestly found something better suited.
Thanks Speedy for the kind words, you are welcome any time.
Greg/Stereotimes. |
The art is going fine, thanks for asking. Give me a call, Greg |
A heart felt thank you. Greg |
Mrjstark........I'ts obvious you give this stuff a lot of thought. But sometimes it comes down to experiencing the gear discussed.
Even with the electronics I had before the behold and sunny, I had a hard time grasping what Clement had been trying to communicate to me about his experience. Yet when I got the Bbehold, and subsequently the Sunny, I gained the understanding.
This is by no means a criticism as I just described my self in the same dynamic.
Best, Greg |
Dude.....That is what I'm talking about. The sound we are getting in our rooms which is strikingly similar in quality.
If you judge how gear sounds at shows as a means to form ultimate opinion about said gear, you will be misguided. That is a rather universally accepted dynamic.
It seems we are spinning our wheels here a bit. I hope you enjoy the review which will be up in a short while. G |
Did you guys read the review? Thoughts? Greg |
Wow, thanks Mitch and Speedy. I really appreciate your kind words. G |
