Ceramic fuses


Gday, Im looking at purchasing some ceramic fuses for my Primaluna gear. 
The question I have, would  a gold plated or rhodium plated fuse be the way to go? If so, which would be the better choice? 
Any information or help, would be appreciated. 
Cheers Ricey

Merry Christmas, everyone
ricey

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Allnoise, that’s you! with not a shred of anything believable about fuses
Even the manufacturers of the fuses, won’t come on here and back your snake oil up. That’s proof there’s nothing in them!

Your all called "FUSERS" it’s a great name.





For members that wish to know the truth, on fuses etc
Just change the fuse if old for a quality brand EE industry standard 50c fuse, as fuses (even the snake oil ones) do age after many turn on cycle surges.
Quick blow fuses aging          and                    slow blow fuses aging left to right.
https://ibb.co/0ZtRv4J                                     https://ibb.co/mbzs3RK
As for the wires yes too those also, especially to the ones serving the big current supply to those tube heaters, they now will also be getting blackened and getting hard under the insulation, as well as the where each end terminates. And yes they definitely could put in new $1 Bussman or Little fuses, as the old fuses would have seen some "massive turn on surges" and their holders
A perfect example of this
https://twoatsea.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/wire-corrosion.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/RZfd90M57YGYP14HAgww8lLxP06o4k6yrqq4ewosKWqYdhBbIixYgrTwytDJ...

And the base section inside the amp, of those external bayonet 1/2 turn fuse screw in ones
https://www.letonkinoisvarnish.co.uk/fuseholder_corrosion_big.jpg

Cheers George
There are probably 5 people right now ordering audiophile fuses right this second. Most of them don't post online ....they are busy enjoying the improved sound.  
And now he thinks he's the messiah, able to predict live sales of snake oil fuses, and what owners think of them. You really must be gifted.
 
NA!!!! second thought your just here to self promote your wares, and mods that have no poof, just voodoo, snake oil and trust me's, Love and Joy, it works.  
Bill, the persistent long term ones, I really believe are shills for the $$$$$$$$$ fuse companies, as no one can be that ****** for that long, so there’s no outcome if you challenge them to an blind a/b because they will never do it.

Better asking them to get their manufacturer’s of these boutique $150+ fuses to come on here to these pages and back up what the they are saying, especially in regards to AC mains directional fuses.

Cheers George

Fuser's they are just a lost cause, full of voodoo and snake oil.
Because the mark up on these $150+ fuses is so massive they'll do/say anything to get it.  




Repeat after me, I believe in Shun Mook Discs, Shakti Stones, $150+ fuses and any other voodoo or snake oil that can’t be explained why they can sound better.

Repeat after me: I don’t believe in all laws of electronic engineering, bench tests and measurements.
As they are what’s used to design very piece of quality audio equipment I have.
And if?? the designer listens to it and thinks it can be better, then he goes back and uses once again, all laws of electronic engineering, bench tests and measurements to make adjustments to the circuit and listens once again.

And after all that
Repeat after me and again and again .
"There is no voodoo or snake oil in audio!!!!!!!"

Seems there are certain rules of physics and science that just don't pertain to audio electronics.

You got that right Bill, they think it doesn't exist.
Just too many "snake oilers" and "voodooist" in audio, trying desperately to make big bucks from the gullible with BS, that they can't workout that they are being shafted big time.

All that can be done is to counter the BS they say with hard evidence that there is no voodoo in audio, with EE principals and EE tests and laws.

Cheers George
And Ricevs, BS to you and most of your tweaks. Your just a self promoter for your own        .
Don't sell many SR fuses, I take it.. Do customers ASK? What do you say, NO.. if they ask for them?
I'd give them the same spiel that I gave you, and tell them to save their money, and spend it elsewhere where it will do good for the sound, instead of the voodoo that a few fuser generals preach (shill) here.

Cheers George   



Ricev’s, you have no idea of the gist here, where’s your proof, your the one who’s ignorant.
All you do is promote your own commercial         and snake oil, and you’ve be deleted for it many times now.


For members that wish to know the truth, on fuses etc
Just change the fuse if old for a quality brand EE industry standard 50c fuse, as fuses (even the snake oil ones) do age after many turn on cycle surges.
Quick blow fuses aging and slow blow fuses aging left to right.
https://ibb.co/0ZtRv4J https://ibb.co/mbzs3RK
As for the wires yes too those also, especially to the ones serving the big current supply to those tube heaters, they now will also be getting blackened and getting hard under the insulation, as well as the where each end terminates. And yes they definitely could put in new $1 Bussman or Little fuses, as the old fuses would have seen some "massive turn on surges" and their holders
A perfect example of this
https://twoatsea.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/wire-corrosion.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/RZfd90M57YGYP14HAgww8lLxP06o4k6yrqq4ewosKWqYdhBbIixYgrTwytDJ...

And the base section inside the amp, of those external bayonet 1/2 turn screw in ones
https://www.letonkinoisvarnish.co.uk/fuseholder_corrosion_big.jpg

Cheers George
So George, if one of your customers came in with Cary 805 Es and said upgrade the wiring, replace the coupling and decoupling caps, check and replace parts as needed Cary, calls it a sonic UPGRADE.

Your barking up the wrong fuser tree sunshine. (starting to get a whiff of fish??)

Sure better spec’d caps will make a difference, (and it’s not the lead out wires from the caps). Also the heat inside those things will dry out caps real quick.


And yes they definitely could put in new $1 Bussman or Little fuses, as the old fuses would have seen some "massive turn on surges" and their holders, (re-below) with those 805 heaters filaments asking as much turn on current as one of Krell’s biggest monoblock amps.
Just change the fuse if old for a quality brand EE industry standard 50c fuse, as fuses (even the snake oil ones) do age after many turn on cycle surges.
Quick blow fuses aging and slow blow fuses aging left to right.
https://ibb.co/0ZtRv4J https://ibb.co/mbzs3RK

As for the wires yes too those also, especially to the ones serving the big current supply to those tube heaters, they now will also be getting blackened and getting hard under the insulation, as well as the where each end terminates.
A perfect example of this
https://twoatsea.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/wire-corrosion.jpg


Cheers George

Gotta love the fairy tales
that "fusers" make up, and have no idea about electronics, or science.

ricey OP6 posts
Gday, Ive decided to go with a ceramic fuse, with nickel plated brass ends. They only cost about $6.75
Good quality fuse ricey, just don’t get sucked into the $150+ fuse BS that "fusers" waffle on about here, especially directional ac fuses, just "snake oil".

Cheers George

Vegemite is also good on Salada Biscuits..
Yes but you feel like a cockatoo eating them. Toast is for me.


not sure why, but what you said about different types of metals reacting, seems to make sense.. Dont know why.
Google dissimilar metals with current running through them, especially if in damp salty air environments, should have learnt about this in school science??

Cheers George



Also, I live in Australia, and let me tell you, Vegemite is better on toast


Of course it is what else would we put it on, the yanks use it as axle grease I heard, they have no idea.

Like I said ricey OP , no difference between Gold and Rhodium plating on fuses, as the thousands of components (resistors transistors capacitors diode etc etc) in your equipment, have (nickel plated) steel legs, so are the fuse holders and the IEC mains socket and plugs.

Actually it’s better if the ends of a fuse are made out of plane nickel plated steel, just like the fuse holders themselves are.
As dissimilar metals with current running through them causes corrosion to occur and will carbon up at the contact points very quickly.

Cheers George
What do the "legs" of audio components have to do with the metals used in fuses
No wonder your a "fuser" if you had to ask that. 
Really!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What have you guys been smoking.

Look at the thousands of components that make up audio equipment, all their legs are made from steel, no gold/silver/rhodium etc etc. Just plain old steel!!!!!!!!
Next we have some snake oil company gold plating capacitor legs for the gullible and charging $1000 each.

Stop boosting this yet again "fuser" thread and let it die it’s rightful death.

Cheers George
@georgehifi Thanks for posting. Those images are eye opening. Any idea how many cycles passed between images?

No, but if you watch a fuse very closely on a poweramp when you turn it on from cold, you’ll see the fuse element inside bend and return slightly, with the turn on current surge
Apparently it came from a vintage juke box technician 

Cheers George
ricey


Just re-new your fuse with the same amperage if it’s old and has seen many turn on cycles, with a quality one like Bussman or Littlefuse and clean the cradle fuse contacts and maybe squeeze them in a little for a tight fit. And definitely don’t be sucked into any $$$ boutique hifi fuses

Just change the fuse if old for a quality brand EE industry standard 50c fuse, as fuses (even the snake oil ones) do age after many turn on cycle surges.

Quick blow fuses aging      and     slow blow fuses aging left to right.
https://ibb.co/0ZtRv4J                 https://ibb.co/mbzs3RK

Cheers George