Cassette tape


I’m slowly but surely getting back into the analog thing via TT and Reel to Reel. We can all pretty much agree vinyl is different. Some people love it, some say it’s ok, some hate it and I say I like it because it’s differemt than digital. R2R is pretty awesome as well. In my opinion, it’s different and I like what I hear. But, what’s the thought on cassettes. Is there any usefulness? Think it'll make a comeback as well? Just curious. I have a chance at fantastic deal on a Nakamichi BX-300 deck. I owned one many years ago and besides the next level Dragon, this thing was pretty sweet. I like to get input from the forum and other thoughts before I indulge. 
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. “I like to get input from the forum and other thoughts before I indulge.”

I can never understand why if a person likes something why do they have to get input from other members?

Since I have been in this hobby I have been into vinyl, I like it but now I am tired of hearing the flaws that is on new vinyl, keeping up with the maintenance of the records, storage, getting up to change the record, etc.       

i decided to get a CD player and didn’t need to ask members for an opinion, I did what I thought would be good move that would keep my interest in listening.    

Do what you want to do vs what members say....and if you don’t like cassettes, then resell it
@riley804 Well that works for you and that’s great! This works for me. Thanks for your valuable input.
Well since nostalgia seems to be a factor why not just go The Full Monty and get an 8-track? ;)
"Is there any usefulness?"

That's an odd question.

What's "useful" about a cassette?  Other than novelty to possibly relive your youth, more clutter the wife will complain about.

What do plan on doing with a cassette? Transfer a record, then play in your car? I wasn't aware one can still get a TDK or Maxell at the drug store.

Does anyone have a functioning cassette deck in their car?

Go with the table, and R2R if you feel so indulgent. R2R is very cool, but are you willing to shell out the dough for albums? Also, the inevitable repair bill? 

A table based system is already a ridiculous method to listen to music in this day and age,  even though I haven't stopped since the 70's.

Cassette at this point seems like pure nostalgia, and nothing else.
Perhaps it's the tape hiss between cuts? Oh, forgot...Dolby feature eliminates that(snicker)

Cassettes are great. They should bring them back. Low noise, high dynamic range, musical and full range. What other medium can you say that about? Tape is a natural medium. It breathes.
Does anyone have a functioning cassette deck in their car?

I do in my 03 Lexus. And I use it regularly as I do my Dragon and my R2R at home. Loads of fun and pleasure.
I say go for it and enjoy.

I use Nakamichi 682ZX on a regular basis.Great for high quality background music. I use nothing but Maxell Vertex tape - the best there is - and no dolby. Second best is TDK MA-XG. With my deck the difference is very significant. Both are very expensive, Vertex is over $100 each.
I'd still be using my Onkyo TA-2090 (dbx noise reduction) if I didn't blow it up (accidentally fed it 220 volts). I remember buying a ten-pack of the TDK MA-XG (with full magnesium frames!) Still have these lying around somewhere. 
I still have a cassette player (as part of the Levinson system) in my ‘09 Lexus. It’s one of the reasons I keep the car. I also listen to my Nakamichi RX-505 at home. I sold more than 2000 tapes last year, but I still have a few hundred (some still in the original wrappers). I find cassettes, like vinyl, to be very easy to listen to, even without any Dolby filtering. I prefer the sound of cassette to CD but you can’t beat the convenience of CD. 
I, just this weekend, bought a stack of in-the-box Denon gear that had been in storage for 25 years.

In this stack was a DR-M14HX in like new condition.  I opened it up and re-lubed everything and made sure it was functioning properly.  

What a frickin' great machine.  I've had a blast this weekend listening to and even recording, (I have over 200 sealed, higher bias type cassette tapes from various manufacturers of the day). 

I've added this to my stable of: Nak LX3, HK CD391, Denon DRR-780.

I have forgotten how pretty damn good a cassette can sound.  No, it's not the new vinyl, but it's loads of fun and brings back simpler times...
I'm no cheapskate but don't forget that you can still find good quality cassettes at thrift store for twenty-five cents, yes $0.25. I also find CDs at thrift stores for forty cents, yes $0.40. Good times!
I have a Nak in the garage, no match ( duh ) for the RtR, Tables and server/dac
but a hoot to go thru tapes I made in the 80’s on some wildly good NAK, Tandberg and Denon decks....
have fun
enjoy the music
what else is there ???
I have a Nakamichi cassette deck. I like to record some of my favorite LP's then play them in my '05 Lexus that has the Mark Levinson sound system. All analog in the car makes the miles go by a little faster. 

Frank
I took the plunge. Screw it, it’s a BX-300 in excellent condition mechanically and cosmetically for $185. I can resale it for that if I don’t use it lol
Right on !!!!
have fun
let us know how it sounds

How's the Nakamichi treating you? I am interested in transferring some of my Vinyl to cassette, when I still want analog sound, but don't want to fiddle with the full vinyl process. Does cassette stay pretty true to the sound of your vinyl front end when it is done with care and good gear?
If you need new cassettes you can get them from ATR Magnetics
https://www.atrtape.com/
Many belts, pinch rollers, heads, tires and the like are available from Russell Industrieshttp://russellind.com/
Cool sites. the first link doesn't have cassette tape (or they ran out). What are the best quality tapes out there for the money right now? I heard there are 4 types of tape, but honestly I don't know too much about it other than to buy "metal" tape
The thing about "metal" tape is that it requires a much stronger flux field to demagnetize (erase) a signal from the tape. Regular (non metal) tapes actually lose recorded signal when they are played if you don't "demagnetize" the heads regularly. So metal tapes are better at retaining the music over time.
@bstatmeister- Long story, I bought the Nak BX-300 back in May. I never was able to use it. There were issues with it’s belts etc, either way it wouldn’t play. I also belong to a forum called Tapeheads.net and I was referred to one of the best guys in the business to restore that deck to as new condition. I contacted this guy and had a long conversation about whether or not this is worth restoring. Of course we’re going to have the ones that say, he told you what he wanted you to hear to get the business. I think not. He is backlogged a year and has decks from all over the world for repair/restoration. In other words, he didn’t need my business. Anyway, he sold me on how great the 300 is and will be when completed which should actually be in a few more weeks. He was able to get parts easily and do his magic. I am looking forward to getting it back. Here’s the kicker, I bought another BX-300 for my second system which has already been restored. I missed today’s delivery so I will receive it Monday lol! I can let you know then.
Nice! the BX-300 seems like it's the best bang for the buck Nakamichi you can get. You get yours off of Ebay? what tapes are you buying? how much are repairs? I'm Jealous!  Have fun ;)
I bought a BX-300 new from Brooks Berdan in 1985 (when he was at GNP Showcase in Pasadena), and still have it. It's been repaired once, for a plastic part whose failure is common. I can't recall what that part is, but Michael Fremer makes reference to it in the video he shot at that huge record/hi-fi store he recently visited in Florida.
@bstatmeister- The one thats in for service I bought off a guy on Facebook Marketplace. I probably paid too much for it being the fact I have to pump in more money. The deck was supposedly in great working condition. As soon as I received it and tried it out, I found out differently and new I been had but the seller did offer to take he deck back. I opted to keep it. I paid $180 for it but cosmetically it’s very nice. The repair & restoration is going to cost another $300. I have a bunch of old stock TDK SA100’s that the deck is getting biased too. Back in the day, Nak biased their decks to TDK. The 300 I’m waiting to receive from FedEx was purchased off eBay. I paid $250 for that one supposedly restored as well. If this deck isn’t in perfect working condition, it’s going back to the seller because I won’t put $300 into it after it was advertised as being in “perfect working order” and reconditioned.
@bdp24- I’m curios what part that is in the deck that’s is a common failure. I know in mine, the tech is replacing some faulty known cap issues and the motors along with the bias pot which is an issue.
my father in law has a 2000 acura with a cassette player. i love driving that car, mostly for the sound! 
I’ve some extra Sony Walkman cassette players I’d be willing to part with cheap. One per person. Excellent Condition. Find out what all the rumpus is about. Tape is a natural medium. It breathes.
Geoff what model are the Sony players?
I have various models. FX103 and F2015 for example. Nothing exotic.
There is even a "Cassette Store Day" now too.

https://cassettestoredayusa.com/
"Does anyone have a functioning cassette deck in their car?"
It seems that many do, which I find surprising. I have it, too, but remember to play a cassette once every couple of couples of years. It did work this morning. Thank you for reminding me that I still have it there. Nostalgia and tapes I had made makes it interesting. Otherwise, not much benefit.
the first link doesn't have cassette tape (or they ran out).
I just repaired a tone arm for the owner of ATR Magnetics- she assured me that they do indeed have cassettes.

I'm working on a Nakamichi 700 'Tri-Tracer' right now; just for the record the machine uses a pair of idlers to run the fast wind functions. The correct tire replacement for these idlers is ST 937 (originally a PRB part number), available from Russell Industries, although I was also able to find them on ebay.
I really want a Nak, but don’t want to deal with fixing old/broken ones...Hopefully Nakamichi (or Schiit) will make a brand new one that's simple but focuses on pure sound quality
I never realized cassettes had "gone away" lol.
Always had a number of Nak and Akai decks lying around and hundreds of pre recorded tapes and quite a few home recorded ones too.

As already mentioned you can pick up cassettes at thrift stores for a quarter each or even less! Ten for a dollar one of our shops was doing!
Also if you are lucky you can find some good sealed blank media too rather than paying fleabay prices.
Found some sealed Sony and Maxell tapes lately.

Long live the humble cassette!

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@luvrockin .
Enjoy those 300 decks, I did have one of those but sold it when I added a 680 to the stable.
Very good machine for the money imho.

Think I paid $300 and sold it for same so at 250 you are right in the ballpark.
@uberwaltz how is the 680? I’m curious because before I bought my second 300, I was negotiating on eBay for a 680zx. It was selling for $550 and I made an offer but after the offer, the seller spooked me. After that I actually retracted my offer. He contacted me a day later with an even lower offer than my offer. I didn’t feel comfortable doin a deal with him. That’s when I found the 300 for $250. I hear the 680’s & zx’s are great decks. I also know the transport mechanism is really a different animal and hard to repair/restore if needed. That was another factor I considered during my purchase.
Tbh, I really cannot tell any difference between the 680 and my 582zx in either playback or recording ... Both are awesome ... Lol.
Agreed repair and service work on these series of decks is a bit more labour intensive but parts for the most part are still available, it's a reliable tech that's the biggest pain.
The guy I know who services R2R will not touch a cassette deck... Claims his hands are too big ...lmao!.

If you ever step up to the 580/680 series I would advise to try and find one serviced and restored, it will be less painful in the long run.

Prices have dropped a little on eBay of late, I have seen some deals on both 580 and 680 series decks.
I had a Nak 1000 ll. I thought the sound was quite good...don't  know why I left it behind
Another highly regarded deck to consider are Pioneer CT-f series like the 950, 1000 and 1250.

Watching some on eBay right now and very tempted by a fully serviced 1250....

It never ends!
@uberwaltz- Take it for what it’s worth. I was looking at the Pioneers before the last deck I purchased. The exact 3 in fact. Prices are very attractive, there’s no doubt. I researched them on the Tapeheads forum, those guys didn’t have much good to say about the Pioneer decks. I was considering a Pioneer because I thought they were supposed to be good machines plus they’re just plain beautiful. Once I read some of the post, I changed my mind and went for the Nak. Research them a bit, then do what you fell. After all, those are opinions from others which we all know, opinions are like buttholes, we all have one lol! There are also many comparisons between the 680’s vs 300. They split hairs with the 300 getting a slight edge because it’s not as old and the Dolby C feature. I really love this crazy hobby!
All things considered, I’ll take my Sony Walkman cassette player and naked Grado SR-60s any day of the week. I suspect Michael Green is correct - that lightweight components sound better. And my system is ultra light. Sounds fabulous.