Cartridge Opinions - Sorry

That's not accurate Raul, angry is not the word of how I felt, more like "surprised" and "attacked for no obvious reason", if your opinion to my post was purely technical fine, you obviously have a lot of experience, I am here to learn not to argue with people.But instead your opinion and reply about a post non directly related to you was with these words "I was even more stupid than (somebody else)"The original post was removed because I reported you to the moderatorsBut I can't be angry to people that just do online rantingNow, why you reacted to my harmless post validating someone else's I can just think for some reason it bothers you when someone validates @atmasphere points of view, he could be wrong or he could be right as far as I know but from a user like you I would expect more civility.So yes you are correct you stated your opinion but you are leaving out the part where you name people stupid just because.

And Raul if you are "admitting" that wasn't the intention I understand so no worriesYou have a good day

@atmasphere

but then I remembered how important loading is for high output cartridges

,Hi Ralph, as always you have all the right answers, what would you consider as a high output cartridge? Anything over 3mV?
Best Wishes

Luis

@chakster

For MC a high output is something like 1.7mV (but such MC carts must be avoided). People who’re using a high output MC do not understand that high output = coil winding and higher moving mass. LOMC with 0.2 - 0.5 mV are better than HOMC with 2mV. Everyone with MC cartridge should buy a decent phono stage first. If there is a problem with gain (MC phono stage) then MM and MI cartridges are better than all those High Output MC.

Thanks, that makes sense and explaing the HOMC and LOMC concepts as well as the outputs on the MM carts

@rauliruegas Dear Raul, you are partially correct, I have to learn (about ANALOG) and that's why I am reading on this site the forums and if you noticed not participating or voicing my opinion at all actively on this site, at least in regards to the analog topics.

What I don't understand is why you have to "jump" and just state that I don't "understand nothing of nothing", you don't know me, we have never interacted before, you have no idea who I am or what I do or if I am proficient (or deficient) on a specific topic or knowledge.

I addressed Ralph directly because I personally know him and because I am familiar with his products and his knowledge, as a matter of fact I own his products, the same he is using at his home therefore I am curious to hear his opinion as this will allow me to understand better where he is coming from. He has solved some issues I had in the past with my system so to me and based on our discussions "he always have the right answers"

I also know 'chakster" because of direct interactions we had and value his opinion as well and his explanation makes a lot of sense.

I did not addressed you directly and I wasn't expecting that kind of an answer from you, I read your posts as you are active on this community and although I don't know you "it seemed" you have experience with the analog world so I read your posts very carefully paying attention to your comments, but this direct comment towards me just shows me you are just another pragmatic radical user of this site who just likes to blatantly show "some knowledge" and attack any opinion that doesn't matches yours or shakes your (possibly limited) vision of the world

Sad because at some point I considered you an experienced Agon user but with this bias or way to express yourself (even in the event you were right) it clouds your judgement and doesn't gives too much credit to your posts, and if these "posts" of yours have no credit then these are useless to this community.

I would appreciate, please, if I address someone like Ralph directly and you would like to provide your opinion (like chakster did) just spill it but don't attack others, I never claimed to have knowledge or be an expert here, so instead of trying to discredit me try to educate me (if you feel like it) if not just pass my post and keep any unneeded criticizing to yourself
Take care
Luis

@atmasphere and @chakster
Assuming an LOMC cart (and proper arm mass matching compliance) I understand the inductance parameter being lowest will push the resonant frequency (ringing) further into non-audible spectrum, you also get the benefit of lowering the mass of the cart.So the only case of looking into a HOMC cartridge would be to take advantage of the obvious higher output allowing you to match it to a less "output capable" phono stage?

Makes sense, yet industry pushed the concept that MC was superior to MM, possibly the case for LOMC, 5 years ago I don't recall seeing the LOMC / HOMC terminology much spreaded, as I remember your posts were the first I found here advocating for vintage MM.
Thanks Chak

@chakster

Even with MM some people always like high output, don't know why, some people think louder is better (I do not agree).

I think it depends on the phono stage, if you have a not so good phono stage with not so much gain the high output cartridge could make sense, if you have a very good phono stage the high output cartridge will work against you. I have tested on my system a Denon MC and Stanton (concorde?) MM, the MM output brings a radio station on my left speaker and lots of noise, the MC won't, now this specific issue could be related to other electrical EMI/RFI conditions. Hopefully I would be able to test some more soon.

Ralph following your comments it would seem the entire "magic" of TT reproduced audio it is most closely related to mechanical parameters (rigidity, mass, adjustments etc) than the electrical ones (MC or MM etc, even the cartridge stylus (mechanical) shape and material will have more impact in the final result.

Ralph, I get it, I'm just saying that to me (a learning noob with analog) is fascinating how mechanics (including proper tracking) will provide 80% of the magic while electrical parameters the remaining 20% (using these values as an example).Now you guys are talking unipivot / gimbal, just realized my Technics uses a gimbal design