Can upgraded power cords help my setup?


I have some KEF LS50 Wireless speakers and decided to use them with a Bluesound Node 2 via a Lifatec optical cable. Can I see a significant and worthy improvement if I swap out my power cords for something like Pangea cords? Do I need the AC 9SE MKII on the speakers or will the AC 14SE MKII be good for each speaker and also the Node 2 (C7?)? Power cords seem to be the only place left for me to tweak the most out of my setup.

Thanks for any input.
asahitoro

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@tjassoc 

You use a lot of technical terms which makes your post sound official, but you back up none of your claims with specifics on how a "audio PC" solves those issues.  There are a few types of power noise (RFI, EMF, switching PS noise feeding back into your house AC (see light dimmers and anything else that uses a switching PS), AC phase and amplitude changes).  

Unless a PC has active or passive components in it, or shielding, or twisted wires (canceling common noise), a cable does nothing to clean up the AC power.  Also, why hook up a mega bucks PC to house wiring or a mega buck outlet socket.  That is nonsense.  Its like paving 1 foot of pavement on a street in gold to solve the other 200 miles of pavement full of potholes.

Before spending any $$$ on cables, I would recommend upgrading any components that use a switching supply to ones with a linear supply.  I would also invest in a  power conditioner.  Not an "audiophile" one.  A lab grade one used in a testing lab that measures RFI and EMI on customers equipment.  Ones with big capacitors and big transformers (preferably toroidal as they tend to add less EMI).   

Then for power cable from your power conditioner to your equipment look at ones with enough gauge to carry the current (watts) you need and ones with twisted hot and neutral (unless you power conditioner puts out a balanced AC signal (google it)) and a good overall shield that is grounded on one end only to the ground prong (third pin) on your AC outlet (not to your amp) you do not want any noise left on the cable shield getting anywhere near your amp.  Ferrite chokes on either end is not going to hurt, but not really needed after the power conditioner unless you live next to high tension power wires or a radio station tower.

Also keep your PC away from your interconnects or if they must cross have the cables at 90 deg to each other.

Keep your interconnects short and go with longer speaker cables.  The signal in your speaker cables are carrying a much higher powered signal which is less susceptible to noise interference.

The aircraft guys know what they are talking about... bad or  noisy signals when you are flying are very bad.  In your pharma business, talk to your instrument techs about how to maintain high quality Analog input signals to their PLC, DCS, or data acquisition, especially in an industrial environment.  Ask one on them if they ever solved a noise problem by changing  a power cord.  Smile when you ask so they know you are joking.

Enjoy audio, but make good friends with a radio, signal, or low voltage instrumentation electrical engineer if you want to learn how to make your system better based upon scientific principles and not someone trying to make a house payment selling fat PC cables.

One last thing.  (At your own risk of course).  Pop the cover off your amp or pre-amp and look at the wires coming out of the other side of your IEC plug that you just plugged your $5K cable into.  Notice anything special?  Nope.  Looks just like some wire I could pick up at radioshack.

Have fun all.


@pennsy please repost with nasty bits removed : )

I am not sure how number of posts make a difference on the recommendations.  I was bored one Saturday morning and decided to try and add some helpful advice.  My background is in electrical and computer engineering with a career in biotech manufacturing automation (and instrumentation).

I agree with the poster about the cherry on top.  There are many things that can be done in speaker positioning and room treatment to better the sound before getting to power cable upgrades.

Also, I agree a PC could make a difference IF preceded by a power conditioner and if shielded (with the shield grounded on one end only).

Also, I do not see how someone could argue against  noise reduction techniques used by instrumentation engineers (airplane, medical, defense).

Finally (since I can not post a picture here).  Check out the second interior shot of this $14K Italian Agua HIFI Formula DAC review on 6moons.

http://6moons.com/audioreviews2/aqua2/2.html

Have a look in the upper left hand side of the picture.  There you will see a fat woven  Sablon Audio Petit Corona power cords   (at ~$130/ft (however, in this case at least they are hooked up to a power conditioner - Granada/Alhambra) which should validate at least one of my suggestions)) then what does that fancy expensive power cable plug into?  A IEC connector... what is on the other side of the connector? 18 gauge wire connected to the IEC backside flat shaped prong connectors?  SLIDE ONs? Not even soldered?  Good thing you bought that mega buck power cable.  <sarcasm>I bet those electrons get really mad after traveling on the lap of luxury on the fat power cable, then being made to stuff themselves down through tiny off the shelf 18 gauge power wires and also having to jump through the small gaps made by the SLIP ON connectors. <sarcasm/off> LOL!

All I am really trying to say is yes, enjoy your audio, it is a rewarding hobby.  However, just be smart about where you spend your hard earned $$$.  If you really want to learn and tweak without speeding your life's savings on opinions and reviews. Have  a look at DIYaudio forums and kit equipment.  You will learn how to quickly (and fairly cheaply though ... capacitors can get pricey) make your own equipment that rivals or exceeds many mega buck store bought stuff and be able to test which upgrades really make a difference.  Granted this can be a much larger time investment.   Transcendent Sound is a good kit maker.  There are many others.