Can someone explain, in lay terms, why I should pay more for a Coaxial Interconnect?


Was reading a review of Coaxial Interconnects and have questions.  The reviewer claimed there was a great difference in the sound of his test system, depending on the interconnect being used.  My favorite line was "the music danced like fire from my speakers".  His actual words.  Not sure if I want the cable he was using or what he was smoking.  So, my limited understanding is this.  The CD transport reads and produces a digital signal. This is a series of 1's and 0's, as are all digital signals?  The signal is then transported via interconnect to the DAC, where the heavy lifting is done and the 1's & 0's are converted to an analogue signal that the speakers can understand?  If the sole purpose of the Coaxial Interconnect, is to carry the digital signal about 3 feet between the CD transport and DAC, how can it possibly have any impact on the final musical output from the speakers?  Would love to know how a $4000 cable is going to make my system sound any better than a $150 cable.  
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Liquid metal cables are unstable at various temperatures

@highwayjelly

Hmmm, that is very interesting.especially given we have been playing in this field for quite a while in a lot of contexts and have not run into any temperature related issue in an audio setting. So we are wondering that since you have no actual hands on experience with our product where you could have pulled that statement out off. Is it possible you have seen some scientific studies of this phenomenon ?


So if you have, could you please provide us with some links to the specific scientific studies that have examined this phenomenon. Like its not like we don’t trust your august opinion or your pure intentions, because we don’t, but some "real" proof with reference to relevant theory and measurements and stuff would be really appreciated. You know, just to avoid the swampy quagmire that mere opinion and hearsay inevitability produce.

And while you are at it maybe toss up some studies about how absolutely stable metal wire is under all temperature conditions, you know to do the real scientific thing and provide the ever important contrast state against which all proper science ideas stand against. And do please include some studies that look at the relationship between temperature and resistance and metal wire failure under high current conditions ( I’m assuming failure is kind of related to some form of instability....like maybe could be seen as an ultimate instability.....and which, if you are not aware, unfortunately has happened in various audio systems on much more that one occasion...) .

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Its kinda funny but save for situations like this we don’t get calls for "real" measurements. And btw what exactly do you consider "real" and "unreal"....like if it shows up on a measuring tool its "real" and if it doesn’t, it does not exist ? Jeez that is putting a lot of faith in your voltmeter to explain life, the universe, and everything. And furthermore how are we going to define audible range...is that going to include listening, or hearing, or listening and hearing....because if we are to include listening we are going to have to come to some strict definition of consciousness....and frankly I have never run into a voltmeter with a consciousness setting...have you ?

So here is what we do...we build cables that we think sound great and we offer them for sale....that sale includes a return policy. To my knowledge our clients do not seem to do any measurements to determine whether to make a purchase they simply plug it into their system to see if the cable is a benefit or not...that system has worked for us and our clients for quite a while....so because we have not had a call for "real" measurements we don’t have any to share....sorry.

Now if you really have a deep seated desire for "real" measurements here is what can happen ....you find an accredited lab that meets both of our spec and commission the lab to do some tests on a cable we will be happy to provide...shouldn’t set you back more than a few thousand dollars, which admittedly, is a bit of an investment, but then you will be able to peacefully sleep thru the night ( and as we know that is priceless ).

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What just asking your dear friend to back up/expand on a statement he made....and was trying to be polite-like so used the real proof card because that is the currency he regularly uses and seems to be comfortable with...just trying to help a cowboy way way out of his element....

And btw that isn’t just "the universe", its life, the universe, and everything, and may I point out that is not a trivial exception....like you’ve heard of string theory, the latest attempt to create the Grand Unified Theory in physics ....well truth be known those aren’t really strings but tiny little cables, like no word of a lie eh...so cables are in fact thin wee conduits to ultimate knowledge in both stereo systems and physics....its not just an audio cable....so there is that there to chew on...

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Maybe more of that thingee implied in the idiomatic expression chewing one’s cud which means meditating or pondering, or similar expressions such as "he chewed that over for a bit", or "chew on that!" is required....

Just sayin’ eh...

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@ rixthetrick

Yup my fave passage from that trilogy....and gosh there are just so many to choose from....

"You’re really not going to like it," ....indeed.....and the answer to the question is "Forty-two," said Deep Thought, with infinite majesty and calm.” ...yes indeed....yes indeed.....

...and then there is that opening line.... “If there’s anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.” ...killer, just killer....

A most humblistical thanks....you made my morning...

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@rixthetrick
About heat/stability issues with our cables....have sold a lot of product and no heat related issues that we are aware of.....

As for the vapourizing question.....


it is being investigated as a possible coolant for fusion reactors. Its nonreactivity makes it safer than other liquid metals, such as lithium and mercury.


Don’t much about fusion reactors but I’m pretty sure they run hotter than your bog standard hot-plate....

Hope that helps.

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Funny how these two lines came from the same author, ostensibly about the same thing....

Galinstan is a lousy conductor

Said with absolute certitude...

And...

I have no idea
Said with the same certitude...

Hey, maybe its just me, but to quote the great and grand Looney Tunes, a vastly under-rated repository of brilliant philosophical insight,  "that just don’t add up"...Chuck Jones was a genius...

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Oh can you send numerals through it? Ones and Zeros are popular these days, so rumor has it.

Yes , though it is done under protest, this Ones and Zeros thing being a blatant affront against nature and all things moral and proper. And it does quite a great job helping to turn garden variety arithmetic back into the magnificence that is the achievement of music. Though sadly it can't replace the meaningful remainder lost in the initial translation from an incredibly rich and complex format into the simplest and most sterile one available.

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Howdy cowboy....what are you going to do about that bet you welched on ?

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Due to high electrical conductivity, gallium-based microfluidic electronics have super electrical performance as well as high mechanical flexibility.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/book/9781782420354/handbook-of-flexible-organic-electronics

Please note not all galium/indium/tin eutectic alloys are the same....Galinstan is an alloy designed specifically to deal with the issues of thermal conductivity....wheras others can be formulated to do some very interesting things in the conductive field by means of ionic motion.

And btw Galinstan is not a by-product of zinc and aluminum production....the company that makes Galinstan uses elements that are scavenged from those processes to create a very specific alloy....I would have thought most everyone knows what an alloy is and how it is made....I mean that is pretty basic high school industrial chemistry.

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It makes me wonder if our recent forums shutdown was done by those on the losing side of many an argument here as they tried to take over this site, only to have their asses handed to them. Even Admin thought it was a possiblity.

Hmmm.....very glad you brought that up cause I also thought there was something a bit hinky about those recent shutdowns....though I kinda finally decided that was just way too childish a stunt.....but maybe not eh.

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