I've had my 851-C for almost seven years now. Isn't going anywhere anytime soon. I love this player. Even though it's been around for awhile, it more than competes with just about anything in the $1500-$2000 range. IMO. Built like a tank and so reliable. The only way I improved the SQ of this unit in any significant way was to hook up a Ayre Codex Dac to it. And that Dac costs more than the player.