CAL Alpha DAC v AA DDE3.0

I was considering replacing my AA DDE 3.0 with the CAL Alpha dac to acquire a less 'digital' sound. I currently have an AA DTIPRO32 feeding the AA DDE via an I2S cable. Would the benefits of using the CAL Alpha dac outweigh the losses of not using the I2S cable (hooking up the DTI to the CAL Alpha with coax rather than I2S)? Or would this just negate most of the effect of the DTI because of the S/PDIF conversion necessary for the coax connection?

An interesting but tough question to answer! It depends a lot on the quality of the new DAC and its jitter immunity vs the quality of the DDE 3.0.

I can supply some anecdotal evidence. Last year I set up an (relatively!) inexpensive second CD front end to experiment with HDCD decoding, which my existing Wadia front end doesn't support. I already had a DTI32 PRO, and I acquired a used AA DDS PRO transport (sounds great - lousy display!) and a used DDE 3.0. I2S connections ran between the transport to the DTI and the DTI to the DDE.

On HDCD's the sound could be spectacular, but was often kind of grainy with a tubby bottom, depending on the HDCD. The same HDCDs, played undecoded through my Wadia 25, sounded great.

On ordinary CD's the DDE3.0 was just OK - quite uninvolving. The same CD played back on the Wadia front end could be riveting. Note that I played back CDs through the DDE using the 20 bit dither seting on the DTI PRO 32.

BTW, the DTI Pro 32 had the Advanced Dither chip, and the DDE3.0 had the remote option. Both used AA Power Station 3's instead of the Power Staion 4 wall warts supplied with the products (replacing the PS4 with a PS3 on the DDE3.0 made a significant impovement in its sound - but not enough).

I decided to try another DAC. I bought a Parasound DAC 2000 off Audiogon at a good price. This HDCD DAC has a good reputation and I figured I could easily resell it if it didn't pan out.

I hooked up the DAC 2000 to the DTI 32 Pro using AT&T glass fiber (SPDIF of course). The DDS Pro - DTI 32 Pro link remained I2S. The DDS Pro - DTI 32 Pro - DAC 2000 combination totally outperformed the same combination with the DDE3.0 in lieu of the Parasound DAC. Now most HDCDs sound excellent, and the tubby bottom is completely gone.

So the moral of the story - arrange to try out the new DAC at home, using a good quality interconnect. Let your ears make the decision.

I haven't listened to the Alpha, so I can't make any relevant comments on this DAC.

Good luck, and welcome to the exciting world of audio experimentation! Remeber to protect your wallet!
Thank you for taking the time to reply. I will have to try to find a loaner and experiment. Without the I2S, I have a feeling I would lose some of the pace and rhythm gained in cleaning up the jitters, but I guess this would be DAC dependent also. The Alpha/Delta DAC/transport from CAL is supposed to be quite good.

I don't remember having the ST option with my DTI PRO 32. I will have to look. That would be a good way to go also.

Thanks again!
The DTI Pro 32 comes stock with an ST out. The ST in was custom ansd replaced the TOSLINK input (I had mine done to use with the Wadia).

Modern DACS have gotten better at reducing jitter,. and with a good interconnect I think you'll get good performance.

Once again, good luck!
Last year I bought an older, used CAL Alpha/Delta on Audiogon. I had the Alpha upgraded to (96/24) HDCD compatible. I use fiber optic connection between each device. The CAL combo replaced an AA DDEv1.0 with a Magnavox 560. The CAL combo is better then the AA and 560 in every area. It took the digital tin out of my music. It has been fun going back through all my cd’s and hearing them for the first time, again.
The CAL Alpha is a great DAC, but with a non-CAL transport, you will find a substantial improvement over the Delta DAC.
I use a MicroMega T-drive transport with the Alpha DAC and the results are really excellent.
I agree with Device. The Delta is the weak link. It was manufactured in 93 and there have been a lot of changes since then. When and if it breaks in will look into the MicroMega T-Drive.