Bridging an amplifier


I recently watched a YouTube video, a few years old, that featured Flemming Rasmussen, the highly regarded founder and engineer for Gryphon (now retired I believe). Flemming was speaking of his class A monoblock amplifiers in the Antileon Evo, Colloseum and Mephisto. Flemming was expressing his disdain for Monoblocks that are actually 2 internally bridged amplifiers, (such as DNA 500,Clayton M300s and also class A Luxman that can be used as Monoblocks in the BTL mode (bridged tied load), calling these types of Monoblocks inferior and not true Monoblocks. He claims dedicated Monoblocks where all push pull transistors are paralleled, are vastly superior to summing the two channels via bridging (antiphase summing). I’d love to know if most audiophiles and engineers agree with Flemming. I have owned and found both the DNA Monoblocks and Clayton M300 Monoblocks to sound excellent, and a friend uses two M-800A Luxman class A amplifiers in bridged tied load mode (BTL switch) with great clarity and power. Thank you for your thoughts!
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Well as Austin Powers put it, "Everyone likes their own brand."

On Wall St its called talking your own book.

A psychologist would probably see it as evidence of cognitive dissonance.

Me, I just see it as way too simplistic. You hear a guy talking like that, you just know he's taking something in which a zillion different aspects interact and boiling it down to the one thing. Which you know is nonsense. Which is why Austin Powers pee joke isn't irreverent, but accurate and very much to the point.
Hmmm, from what I understand, the concept of using a stereo amp in bridged-mono mode is really no different than a true monoblock. They both use "antiphase summing" where one amp board pushes while the other amp board pulls. They both have to use push-pull transistors arrays where one set of transistors is pushing the positive side of the waveform and the other set pulls for the negative side of the waveform. However, stereo amps cannot normally support low impedance loads. For example, DNA 500 is a stereo amp that supports 500 watts into 8 ohms or 900 watts into 4 ohms. When bridged, I suspect that you do not want to run a load under 8 ohms.


The Luxman is designed with higher current, but again the impedance capability is halved when bridged. However, they support 1 ohm loads in stereo and 2 ohm loads bridged.


A dedicated monoblock usually has a power supply design that can adequately support low impedance loads (such as 4 ohm or lower). Based on what I can find, that Clayton M300 is a true monoblock.
Hi millercarbon & auxinput 

Thanks for your input. I guess I’m still not fully understanding the difference between a ‘true’ mono-block vs bridged monoblock....maybe I’m getting stuck on terminology. I thought it was more than a robust power supply? BTW, the Clayton M300s have been described as a bridged Balanced Class A design with essentially two M100s internally bridged in each monoblock....guess I need to read a little more about paralleled vs bridged amplifier designs.
After some research I find that some excellent manufacturers that design dedicated internally bridged Monoblocks such as McCormack DNA 500 and Clayton M300/S2000 can build designs that are technically and often sonically superior to units that are switchable from stereo to bridged monos. According to Clayton and McCormack the dedicated internal bridging and large power supplies make the difference. Opinions are appreciated.

I’m not familiar with the internal design of the amps that have been mentioned, but I would expect that one significant difference between a bridgeable stereo amp and an amp that is internally bridged and is mono only is that in the former case two signal paths that are almost entirely separate would exist when the amp is operated in bridged mode, while that would not necessarily be the case in the latter situation, where the output stages may be mainly what is separate. Which means that it may be less challenging in the latter case to obtain an optimal match between the characteristics of the signal provided to the amp’s + output terminal and the signal provided to the amp’s – output terminal. And similarly that may be less of a challenge in the case of a “fully balanced” amplifier, which like a bridged amp provides a full amplitude signal on both its – and + output terminals. Fully balanced amps are often (although not always) designed with signal paths comprised of differential stages, and that approach may very conceivably also mitigate the challenge of keeping the two outputs matched, compared to situations in which the + and – output terminals are driven via separate signal paths.

In any event, I think the others who responded have hit upon the key points. As is usual in audio there are a multitude of approaches that can be chosen to meet a given set of requirements, each involving innumerable tradeoffs. And a designer will have his or her own preferences among those approaches based on the particular individual’s background, knowledge, experience, and the approach he or she feels most familiar and comfortable with. And what usually counts most is how well whatever approach is chosen is implemented.

Also, as alluded to earlier, bridging tends to have negative connotations in some quarters as a result of the fact that stereo amps which can be bridged usually sound worse when bridged than when operated in stereo mode. The main reason being that in bridged mode such an amp will see a load impedance equal to the speaker impedance divided by two. But I would not extrapolate from that any expectation of the sonics that would be provided by a monoblock amp that is internally bridged, and which can only be operated in that manner, and which has been robustly designed with the need to drive low impedances presumably front and center in the mind of the designer rather than being some approximation of an afterthought.

BTW, the reason a bridged amp sees half the speaker’s impedance is that from the perspective of each of the two bridged outputs a given output voltage will result in twice as much current being drawn from it as would be drawn from that output if it were operating by itself. If operating by itself the voltage appearing across the load would be the difference between the voltage it is outputting and the amp’s circuit ground, which the circuitry sees as zero volts. In a bridged configuration the voltage appearing across the load would be twice that amount, since the other side of the load is being driven with an equal and opposite voltage rather than being connected to ground. Twice the voltage across a given load impedance means twice the current. And since per Ohm’s Law resistance equals voltage divided by current, if a given output voltage results in twice as much current being drawn it appears from the perspective of whatever is providing that voltage that the load impedance has been halved.

Best regards,

--Al