Bookshelf Speakers with the decent bass


Looking for the bookshelf speakers with the decent bass that would sound nice in 17'x 12' room. Listening preference:
Smooth/Uptempo Jazz; Acoustic Jazz and Ambiental music.
So far I am using Focal 807W Speakers and the NAD C356DAC.
Good sound, just missing "that" lover bass (hate sub woofers).
I really like how NAD sounds, especially after I replaced the
stock Pre/Amp jumpers. Nice open highs.
Or, should I try Floor standing speakers. Thank you in advance
on yours opinions.
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Showing 6 responses by audioconnection

Nad and The 1CI is superb together.
The 1CI feature phase and time correct drivers, multi enclosure has it all over box speakers.
The 38HZ bass extension just makes music more full and natural. Here is a review.
http://www.tonepublications.com/review/vandersteen-1ci-loudspeakers/
JohnnyR
Vandersteen dealer

http://www.tonepublications.com/review/vandersteen-1ci-loudspeakers/
Roxy 54
Thanks for your comments.
Quoting JAs measurements
((It must be remembered that the Clue is intended to be used when placed flush with the wall behind it. However, as the nearfield measurement technique assumes just such a condition, this graph therefore correlates with HR's finding the speaker's low frequencies to sound lean. And note the high-Q resonance in the port's output at 800Hz.))

In all fairness and not to be nasty for the OP i also agree and think the Clue would be clueless for him as ZD stated.
To be nice when you see statements like this,if you were him and had a solid opinion makes it hard to resist from being cynical.
There's got to be a little fun for him in being correct
Best JohnnyR
((("zd , How do you know all of this to be true ? Are you an audiophile savant?")))
Maplegrovemusic
If you do this long enough you realize ZD is just making
an simple observation with coherence.
An honest full range speaker like he owns will have the advantage of a smoother bass in room response this allows
upper frequencies to sit on a better foundation allowing the music to be more dimensional. Most Mini box monitors have no foundation and are dicked up at two frequencies Mid bass and Treble as a balancing act,
this in combo with the box lends male voice to sound nasal by comparison. This is why i would guess ZD doesnt listen to
Bookshelves.
((I think that a lot of people (myself included) are tired of your habit of using a discourse on any subject as an excuse for being abusive. You alternate between bad puns and nasty jabs.
Maplegrove )))

WTF
First of all lets be fair "think Logic ,facts and experience"
I look at ZD posts and think he is pretty much spot on 98 percent of the time. If you had the experience it would all make more sense to you.
Perhaps if you can get past emotional pride response and stay open minded you may just learn something.
We need more folks that speak from their own real challenges, discoveries,and errors instead of confused jargon emotional response on how to get there from what he said, she said on someone else's rig.
JohnnyR
((Maple. Do you tell people what they will like too))

When I set up the Vandies text book correct in most rooms its so different compared to a mini box and pretty hard to resist for most folks.
All i am stating is the facts,a genuine observation based on real life experience which you cant seem to handle. Hey they might not be your cupa, but many compare them using live recordings and studio and get it more then do not.
Best JohnnyR

(((Audioconnection , If you are going to chime in on Roxy54's recommendation of "the clue" being a clueless suggestion then give your own recommendation for the speaker the op should buy . You must have the "correct" answer with all that knowledge you have .
Maplegrovemusic))

Thank you. yes I agree, FYI its the 9th post from the top
Best JohnnyR
((Chrshanl37 I agree johnny when and only when they are set up to properly Vandersteens sound great but off axis not so much.))
What you can try to improve off axis response is if in a rectangle room, is much wider then normal spacing, try sitting within the triangle, speakers closer to the side walls with just a bit of toe in and nail the first reflection with diffusion as well as secondary reflection on the opposing wall.
Best JohnnyR
Vandersteen dealer