Blu Ray over/under $

Blu Ray is beginning to look real. That Pioneer Elite looks to be a nicely designed unit that I would be happy to have in my rack. Think I'll hold off on buying a 60" Sony SXRD until they add a 1080p input.

Thanks for the photos, Ears.

db

Your welcome db, and I agree that the Pioneer Elite looks sweet.
There is a spec pdf for that one on the Pioneer site.
Multi channel 192/24 BB dacs, 1080p ect.

Here is a link that works for the player/recordes

www.blu-ray.com/recorders/
And drives
www.blu-ray.com/drives/
And media
www.blu-ray.com/media/

with regard to the "average consumer"...yes they really do not care for high quality audio playback...or perhaps they have become so for a variety of reasons and certainly put much more value on flexibility, portability, storage and convenience....but the same may not be the case for video quality: if it is readily apparent which most seem to state with regard to HD then the adoption may much faster than e think and at least have much larger success than SACD, analogue LP, DVD-A.

We are full of expectations all the time. What will happen in the future will be about money. It does not matter if it has backing of big companies.... what matters is, after all the hooplaaaa blueray or HD DVD it will still defend of the market response. It does not matter what audiophiles decide.... it will be the decision of the mass market,that is where the money is.

Our economy is very different now, before you can develop a product and sell it in the market place and wallaaaa!! every body will pick it up. NOW it is what you call market base economy, where all the marketing decision will come from the users and not for the few. It is the needs of the market that those guys are looking and not what the manufacturers want to sell. In the Audiophile world..it is different.

Those companies did not developed that technology for us ... but for the mass market.

The reason why they have that at CES is for the mass market again not for us.... so I think what we have to do is wait and wait and wait and may be listen to our music instead of our equipments.

In response to the last post, CES is not solely for the mass market although it certainly makes the news. No sense going into this but suffice to say that the content is wide and varied with different intents and purposes.

Blu ray is just one aspect of many video technologies all in different stages of development that were presented at CES and in fact other shows as well. SED technology for example has no release date and no availability. Lots of floor space and talk at CES though.

Rysa4, CES is not for all but this is one of the big show out there that the manufacturers can have some feedback from almost all the segment of the market. From media to just technology savvy consumers but not really audiophiles. It is fun to see anyway. Thanks again Rysa4.

P3 launch is likely to be delayed

Henry, I saw that as well. Even more interesting is the fact that the parts cost of the PS3 will be upwards of $900. Interesting business model, sell wholesale at a 200% loss, drive down unit costs with volume, and derive profit from software licensing fees. The disc unit part cost was $200 I think. I'll get a PS3 when they finally do come out.

Twinaudio- Actually Alexis Park and St Topez is pretty much for audiophiles. AS you know these are the CES venues that are SOLELY for audiophiles and is one of the few places where you can hear the Green Mountains, Silverl;ines, and Merlins in one place. Certainly not for the masses and definetly for audiophiles. Just trying to get you more up to speed.

Rysa - I am just talking about the Blue-ray subject. I do not miss any CES so we are on the same page. But the Blue ray is in the south hall and not at St Tropez and Alexis park that means.... they are still trying to get the feel of everything.

That what happens to a new Plasma and LCD TV. What we do is take it to SID ( Society of information Display show) and just let all the manufacturers, enginneers, Scientist, reviewers, investors and media watch and gather some info. Once this is well recieved then we go for the next show which is CES and get some more feedback with the larger market segment which includes of course sellers and thier relatives and friends.
Thanks again Rysa4.

Blu Ray will be the clear winner. Blu Ray has all the big consumer companies behind it. The only way HD DVD becomes the big winner is Microsoft and Intel stay away and continue to not support Blu Ray. I doubt it. As well as ERP system is booming now a days like AX and NAV. Which creates disruption in Market i am pretty sure. MS Inspire changed the scenario. 
    Now a days Dynamics AX Developers got plenty of opportunities. Wonder if it can effect Blu Ray technology also in market share as every thing becoming integrated technology which may make Bluray as redundant?