Black-Eyed-Peas, the future of modern music?

Bongofury, I'm with you. I've been getting into the local music scene and even singing with some of the musicians I have met who are much younger than I (56). I've discovered that I have a good rock voice only because some of the younger musicians have encouraged me to belt it out. Prior to this revelation I was afraid to sing in public. A little private jamming after listening to a lot of these younger musicians on stage has opened up a whole new world of music for me. Mostly I just enjoy listening to all the great local bands but actually participating a bit is like a dream come true. While I have no illusions of my ever really doing something in the music biz, just letting her fly for however long is a gas, gas, gas.

Actually, all the background music is pre-recorded a day before and played through the monitors at half time the next day. It would be impossible to properly stage a "live" event due to the nature of the roll-out stage and the logistics of feeding and mixing a 64 track board in real time. It is easier to mimic the music under similar conditions the day before and let the attention be placed on the front persons during Sunday.

The only live feed in real time is the mics on the singers and occasionally one instrument, usually a guitar. Only Fergie and Slash were live during that section.

Why do I know this? I have done three of the half time shows.

Very difficult for ANY band to sound good here.

Auto tube coming on premature was just another flaw in the prgram, I know its no secret, it was however a sloppy transition. One more cherry on the poop sunday.

"Whitney lip synched, but it was still the best anthem performance of all time."

I'll accept lip synching for the anthem if needed to assure a sterling performance.

Otherwise, let people who are supposed to be singers just give it their usually best. No big deal.

Agreed Whitney's was perhaps the one for the ages.

Whitney lip synched, but it was still the best anthem performance of all time.

It may have been a vocoder effect, not autotune. It could have been a vocoder and autotune. It's hard to say.

"close you could hear autotune being turned on while they were talking"

It's no secret that a lot of modern pop music uses this technology.

So what if the act is electronically enhanced? That's progress.

It beats lip-synching and pretending to sing completely which has been going on for decades.

They should just play a tape of Whitneys Anthem during Desert Sheild/storm and be done with it.
PEP on the other did sing live but if you listened close you could hear autotune being turned on while they were talking.........premature launch of it but you could hear it for a second.
Sad that they had to load the show with lights and dancers, I guess its like magic act, distract the audience with one thing while hiding another (in this case they were trying to hide lack of talent).
Sa for CA, nerves must be a bitch but she is payed for this and its not like she has never done it before, prepare and be prepared, or do what others do a lipsync.

I was disappointed with CA's national anthem.

BEPs performance was about what I expected, at least when the mikes were working.

As one local reviewer pointed out, at least BEPs actually attempted to perform their stuff in that environment rather than lip synch. SO they should get some credit for that.

However, performances of teh national anthem should be held to the highest standards at a landmark symbolic event like the Super Bowl. No excuses for anything less than perfection there ever!!!!

The music, Anthem, commercials all sucked IMO, the pre game video clips by Sam Elliot and Michael Douglas were over the top aswell. But Steelers lost so all is well!
Steelers fans look like bumblebees with bad shaves, and the men look even worse.

>>The best measure of success is longevity."
No doubt.
But can't apply that criteria to current acts quite yet without a crystal ball of some kind.<<

Well then, I'm glad we both agree your position about record and/or ticket sales is irrelevant. See Andy Gibb, David Cassidy, Debbie Gibson, etc. as other good examples of where you were.

Nice to see you're thinking more clearly.

Congrats.

Sucked so bad I re-watched the Puppy Bowl on Animal Planet.

"The best measure of success is longevity."

No doubt.

But can't apply that criteria to current acts quite yet without a crystal ball of some kind.

We'll see....

I used to think AC/DC sucked. I changed my mind years later.

My vote for both BEP's and Aguilera's performances at the SB also falls into the "They Sucked" category as well.

Yuck.

>>02-07-11: Mapman
"Only if you measure success by tickets and/or records sold."
That's a good measure of success I would say.<<

An extremely myopic view in fact.

The best measure of success is longevity.

See Bach, Beethoven, Berry, Beatles, etc.

Hope that helps.

"Only if you measure success by tickets and/or records sold."

That's a good measure of success I would say.

I am usually able to find something to like about pop music acts that either were at one time or are currently popular, at least if the popularity persists over an extended period. Also influence on future acts is another measure of success in the long term, I suppose.

Spectacle plays a big part in pop music, more so as time goes on it seems. Acts like BEP and Lady Gaga (including their producers and directors) are trail blazers in this regard.

That's the part that just is what it is to me.

One thing about BEPs, their CDs apply a lot of over the top electronic bass that I find exhilirating and was a big challenge to get a handle on in building my audio system. So in that sense BEPs recordings have played a significant part in my quest to enable my system to deliver with modern digital pop music. I owe them something for that at least I suppose.

Plus I still think Fergie is hot!

03-04-10: Tpreaves

Black-Eyed-Peas, the future of modern music?

Let's hope not.

I still stand by my first post.

>>02-07-11: Mapman
The BEPs have racked up a lot of success of late<<

Only if you measure success by tickets and/or records sold. Your position then must also apply to Justin Bieber, Madonna, Miley Cyrus, Sheryl Crow and on and on and on.

What they have in common is all are purely show and no go. In the entertainment business there's no accounting for lack of talent. It's all about promotion and the public fish eagerly stand in line to spend their money.

Reading my last post back did I mention the BEP in the same line even as those others?

Oh well, it is what it is.

The BEPs have racked up a lot of success of late. The book is still open. We'll see......

"Personally, I can't stand the entire super bowl circus."

Philosophically, I am in this camp as well. But it is what it is so I just go with it.

I'm not going to say the BEPs performance set any new musical standards.

But I actually like the songs they did and the performance with the spectacle and all was fun and somewhat fresh, so I actually enjoyed it more than any other recent SB halftime show I've seen, including some of my aging classic rock heroes like McCartney, The Stones, and The Who.

I will not compare BEP to them any more than I would compare them to Ellington, Armstrong, or even Beethoven.

They are all totally different beasts from totally different ages.

THE BEP are the least of my concerns as I get older.

It was hard enough with all the trauma to my eyes between the trannylicious combo of Aguilera and Fergie. Then Fergie and Slash murdered my childhood.

At least the game was decent.

Dread and mapman, from all of the reviews I'd say you guys are in the minority opinion.

Personally, I can't stand the entire super bowl circus. Just play the damn game.

Last night's performance was simply awful.

The Black Eyed Peas suck but they sure can shuck, jive, prance, and dance. Monkey "music".

And somebody should get Christine Aguilera a teleprompter; yeah it's really tough remembering the lines to a single song you've been singing all your life. LOL

Great job at the Super Bowl. Pure entertainment.

pathetic. thats what happens when "musicians" dont actually play instruments...reality sets in outside the studio.

prince didn't have that problem, and he performed in the rain. ---these clowns would've been electrocuted by their outfits, like that shwartzenneger movie "running man"

That was simply sad. They would be better off putting a marching band out there - at least you could enjoy musicians making music.

hm. turns out Slash is Eric Stewart-short. the top hat works.

I liked their halftime show.

I hope Slash earned a good payday, to be part of that
mess. I'm sorry, I will take one of the mature rockers anyday over that.

If that is the future of music.. we are all in trouble.

And that is why we are all passing the hat at half time to watch instead the 2011 Lingerie Bowl on pay per view. What a fine country we live in!

Wow look at all the lectures in here, and seriosuly some are hinting towards personal offense over the "Black Eyed Peas"....seriously?
Get over yourselves, its a POP band, not everyone needs to or should have to like it and fans of them (atleast some) are being a bit insecure about it all...........calm down, its a pop band.
I bet the bars are gonna do great business during halftime show at Superbowl.........just sayin :)
(and if that makes you bitter.......dont bother)

NO, it isn't.

Same story, different day. Anything different from Album Oriented Rock gets flamed in the AudiogoN community. I am surprised that a site oriented to high quality stereo reproduction is mired in the good old days. I can think of 100 new bands that would rival anything from the "golden era." Great songwriting, great production, great live dynamics.

Personal taste is personal taste. See no place for all the hatemail I see on a routine basis on this site. My life is rich because I embrace all forms of music. I consume within 20 different genres. Open your mind and open your heart. Who wants to be apart of a community that bickers. I for one, love free thinkers who constantly challenge my with new groups to listen to. Why select vanilla when you can have 31 flavors. I'm just saying....

On the weekend, I saw a band that was 'the future of modern music' in 1973. Called the New York Dolls. I thought they might suck now, but boy was I wrong. If you get the chance, go see them. They absolutely rocked!

Dreadhead, there is a "making of" oprah flash mob or three out there (there is probably even one on oprah's site). I happen to think dancing flash mobs are one of the coolest things going. There was a T-Mobile commercial in Liverpool station, a cool 'Sound of Music' in Antwerp Station, and I am sure a bunch more.

" I hat"d Grand Funk Railroad."

Big mistake! They were an awesome power trio! Cream got all the love from the critics.

Synthfreek, I've never heard any Kenny G. that I liked, but I can imagine that somewhere, at sometime he has or will produce something that I like. Who knows, it might even be a duet with Micheal Bolton.

My first musical ignorance moment came back when I was in junior high. I hated Grand Funk Railroad. I really hadn't listened to them much, but I knew I hated them. They weren't cool and everybody who I knew was cool hated GFR. And I was cool! One evening I was hanging out at some friend of a friend's place and he played some music. I remember saying, "man, that's some heavy shit!!!" He responded with, "Grand Funk can rock!" Lesson learned.

I don't necessarily get Black Eyed Peas, but I just to keep an open mind.

I guess I just don't get it, count me as one being left behind.

The Oprah clip is amazing! How did they do that?
To all non-believers, your loss. This is the wave of the future, get on board or get left behind.

Thanks for the kind words Onhwy61. Much appreciated.

Shadorne, Thanks for reposting that. The original link you posted to was taken down. I have a few more HERE. Actually, "here" is a continuation of yours, but it does not let down. When they get a good concert going, they are a great deal of fun. I also like the Oprah thing - enough to bring tears to my eyes to see thousands of people having that much fun at the same time.

That's not logic! You're just glorifying your ignorance. And nothing's wrong with being ignorant as long as you know you're ignorant.

Why isn't it possible to not like something without hearing it? I do not like Kenny G.'s last album...I can guarantee you that...nor have I heard it. Why can't the same logic be applied here?

not so "vacuous tawdry consumerism" at its best!

Koegz,

Sure thing - no talent here!

Koegz,
The Black Eyed Peas, SAD, awful, depressing???
Have you even heard THE E.N.D.?
"far from the truth..." what planet are you on?
You don't have to like them but to dismiss them is just plain ignorant.

The future of modern music? what a SAD awful depressing state of new music we would have to be in! thankfully, this is far from the truth and there are many great bands, now and on the horrizon.

I enjoyed the show so much I will be seeing it again on the Broadwalk in Atlantic City this summer.
My comment about the future of music was based on this live performance.
I do have THE E.N.D. on vinyl and for such a digital mix it sounds incredible.
I urge you to see the show or at least pick up the latest release.

She can sing. I've seen the band just jamming out they've got talent. Not everyone's cup of tea though. But who is?

Check out the Fergie song on Slash's new album. This should silence the haters on this thread.