Big source improvement using CD player
I have a Cambridge CXUHDNot quite as good as the CXC for spinning CD's. As the CXC has a dedicated linear power supply, and dedicated CD drive, with it's "legendary" ‘S3’ servo design. (whatever that is). Where the CXUHD uses a SMP (switch mode) power supply and universal DVD/CD drive, and no S3 Cheers George |
If I am feeling lazy, then I use the music server, if I want to listen to my system at its best, I use the Esoteric player. Yes you are, like many others that have found out and gone back to "a good" CD transport to listen to, not a rubbish one with all it’s error correcting and jitter. Some just can’t see (hear) the forest for the trees, they have their heads up https://www.ripleys.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/ostrich-head-in-sand.jpg Cheers George |
Yes I should have a little more specific, for the one that likes to turn things around to make himself look good. Transport "Clock Error" "Speed Error!! is what it measures, not Tracking Errors. AT&T ST high speed glass fiber optical with indexing fluid helps reduce jitter, what’s with you!!! And yes to those here, all three above are transport related errors and to how they sound, and why that slot loaded junk is not up to scratch, compared to a good transport. Cheers George |
If only there was a way of showing what the correctable and uncorrectable error rate coming off a CD rip or similar was available If you were an audiophile which your clearly not, you would probably know Arnie Nudell (rip) and Paul McGowan did such a thing (you find out what) and showed it to you in a numerical error counter on the display. Frightening seeing the differences between good and bad transports, that the error correction didn’t get right. The lowest count I saw was the Wadia T2000 transport using it’s AT&T High Speed"Glass Fiber" optical output connections using expensive indexing fluid on both ends. https://ibb.co/PYGZd7t https://ibb.co/yNmgR1W |
arctikdeth Try putting a 1kohm 1/4w resistor between L & R output of the cd player or dac your using, to bleed the channel separation down to around 30db It will richen things up a little as the best vinyl can do is 30db at 1khz but in the bass and up high it’s much worse around 10db. What the 1kohm resistor does on the cdp or dac output is across the board approx 30db of channel separation, reducing it down some 80db from 110db, not exactly mimicking vinyl channel separation but a simple way to get the idea. The ideal would be a passive network between L & R to copy the channel separation characteristics of the Lyra cartridge graph below This is the channel separation of a expensive Lyra phono cartridge, lower traces are the channel separation curves. https://ibb.co/FhhbHNZ Cheers George |
Go away, like I said can't see the forest through the trees. For those interested in what happens when a byte can't be read. If a scratch has created read errors, you’re not completely hosed., "there is a pretty good chance that an uncorrected byte still has a good byte on either side". If that’s the case, then your CD player will take an average for those two values "and make an "educated guess" about what the missing value should be in between". If the number of missing bytes gets to be too large, the system will suppress the error by muting the sound for a fraction of a second, which is hopefully too short a period of time to be detected. At a certain point, of course, you’ll start to hear the difference. Like when the CD starts to repeat. Cheers George |
The difference in sound quality between a good CD player and a really expensive CD player is not the mechanism.I didn’t say it was the only thing sunshine, you have to stop looking for angles to make your self look good, it don’t work here. Have a look at the electronics and what you get inside with that cheap **** slot load transport, then compare it to what’s inside the ML 37 transport Like I said can’t see the forest for the trees. |
Actually the above is inaccurate and tells me you don’t know what you are talking about here.I think it’s the other way around. Sorry?? but that’s very rich from someone that has these sorts of hearing problems!! https://forum.audiogon.com/posts/1686434 |
Bryston BOT-1Sorry, but that thing just uses a cheap $20 slot load media disk spinner, like this. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TS-632A-GATEWAY-M-SERIES-SLOT-LOAD-DVD-RAM-DVDRW-DRIVE-TS-632A-GRADE-A-/264547058626?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10 Try going back to a real CD transport, with some cred. Cheers George |
Really! your saying there’s not much difference between this in a box. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TS-632A-GATEWAY-M-SERIES-SLOT-LOAD-DVD-RAM-DVDRW-DRIVE-TS-632A-GRADE-A-/... And this, which I’ve just installed a new laser in for a customer, and listening to as I type. I’ve got news for you. https://kahlaudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/DSC01087-1024x276.jpg You need to get out a lot more. |
Wait a minute, you have a very capable DAC in that NAD so why don’t you just rip cd’s and play them off a network drive? Don’t burn CD’s they tax the "error correction" way to much, just look at the differences that a laser has try to read. Left original stamped retail cd Middle burnt gold blank cd Right burnt aluminium blank cd https://ibb.co/BTM8ft4 No wonder the burnt cd’s always sound brighter to many, there’s many more errors being fixed, and that’s just a 50% chance to get a 1 or a 0 correct, because an error is replaced by what was read before, and that’s a 50% chance to get it right. This is why many CD players won’t even play burnt cd’s as they can’t even read the TOC (table of contents) Cheers George |
puffbojie You'll never look at streaming or downloads again, get your cherished dac fed the digital stream by this Cambridge Audio CXC CD Transport. https://www.tnt-audio.com/sorgenti/cambridge_cxc_e.html To me sounded THE BEST BANG FOR BUCK there is. In Australia you can get them for $490aud new = $333usd. Cheers George |
