Best used integrated under $5k


Hey guys

Preparing for a move out from our NYC apartment to a house in the suburbs. 
As part of that planning to create dedicated 2 channel space. At the moment using my salk sound speakers with marantz receiver. 
Plan is to get a new TT. Also last year I had done countless hours of auditions and based on that had settled on Wilson Sabrina. Planning to buy them used to save some dough. 
Also planning to buy used integrated. Want to spend < $5000. Short list is
- Hegel 360
- Luxman 509
- ML 585
- Audio Research VSI75
- Naim Supernait 2
- Krell Vanguard

Bunch of these brands are not that easy to find in the used market and you have to wait. 
Would appreciate any inputs on the above and anything else I should be looking at.
marrduk24

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Jjss49 - not sure why you say H360 doesn’t have a DAC. It does. However I will have to get a separate phone stage with it. 
While I am planning to use this with my TT, it’s nice to have the flexibility to stream too. However none of these units are so called Swiss Army knives And won’t have all of the below: 1. Streamer 2.DAC 3. Phono stage 4.Pre+Power

So with Hegel I will have go get phono.
With ML585, i will have to get a streamer and either get 585.5 or get a phono stage too. With ARC I will have to get a streamer/DAC and Phono stage. 
With Luxman will have to get streamer/ DAC. 
With the exception of Hegel H360, all of these will require a streamer, which is fine. 
I left out brands like Plinius. It will be great to hear inputs on what else shall I add or feedback on the list I have. 
Corelli, fair point. Hopefully the following will add some value to the exchange:

Here is the type of sound I like:

1. A tad bit warm while still having a lot of punch (nothing muddled about it)
2. Vocals (Diana Krall, John Mayer etc) have a level of cleanliness to it
3. Guitar (Gipsy kings, Jesse cook) sound airy without being lean
4. Speakers can fill a medium to large room (16’x16’x9’) even at modest volume and sitting on my sofa (9 ft away from speakers), I feel engulfed by the sound. Key is even at moderate volume. 
5. It may be related to my first point above; forgiving of recordings that weren’t mastered at very high quality. 
Will look at PrimaLuna , Ayre and Moon too. 
BTW I was talking to folks at Wilson. They pointed to Pass, Hegel and Luxman. 

Thanks all for your inputs. 
Thanks for your inputs. I am based of these inputs trying to narrow it down to 
New fits within my budget
1. Hegel H390
2. Supernait 3
3. Simaudio 340i x


Used:
4. ARC VSi75
5. Luxman 509

Of this list, I should be able to try out Naim, ARC and Moon with Wilsons because my local Wilson dealers carry them. However there is no local dealer that has Luxman and Hegel.

djones51 and dtximages - thank you for pointing me to Anthem. It wasn’t on my radar. While I am was originally looking at brands that have more of an audio heritage, makes sense to look at Anthem too. 
Djones51 - in my post yesterday I did thank everyone collectively for their inputs, that included you as well. 
Thanks guys. Really appreciate all the inputs. 
I have found a dealer that has Luxman, Hegel, PrimaLuna & Simaudio. So feels like a good place to compare these. 
Also planning to visit 2nd place to compare Naim, Hegel, Pass, Audio Research. While at the 2nd place will also look at Anthem and Langford (other  suggestions here). 
Hopefully between these two auditions I will select something.