get the JM Lab Electra 906 instead of the 905.
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I gotta agree with Jim. The Reference 3A MM De Capo or De Capo(i) are great small speakers. I find them to be very involving with great detail and musicality. Additionally, they have the best bass performance of any small speaker that I've ever heard. They are fairly effecient and are easy to drive with as little as 2-3 watts. I currently drive mine with 2A3 SET Tube amp at 3.5 watt/channel.
Kinima G1 from Zetagcorp. If you want a nice silk dome tweeter that is non fatiging, easy on your ears, check this out. Cardas bi-post and internal wires, non bloated mid-range, a fast woofer and craftsmanship with a real wood finish that is found on more expensive speakers. I have mine with an Audio Aero amp and cdp with excellent results. I compared Kinimas to JM sandwiched woofer speakers, B&Wcdm's and others in that price range. For contemp. jazz and classical trio music, these speakers will reveal every detail without coloration. They take about 4-500hrs to break-in, but it is worth it.
Acoustic Energy AE1 Signatures, considered by many to be 1 of the top 10 mini moniters of all time. Not made anymore and hard to find used, guess no one is selling theirs.....I'm not selling mine
The AE1 MkII offers perhaps 85-90% of the performance of the AE1 Signatures, and are easier to find, I believe there is a pair on Audiogon right now for 700 buckaroonies
The Reference 3A MM De Capo will not work well with your 75W tube amp. Look for a pair of used ATC SCM10( need a stand) for around $1000 to $1500 depends on the finish. If you want bigger sound, get the SCM20T. I found the JM Labs a bit analytical than ATCs.
Music perference is most important in choosing the right speaker. Proac Response 1SC is similar to B&W 805s except the B&W has rounder mids and Proac is lively and thinner sound.
Well, B&W and ATC are quite popular among recording studios. You can use them as your reference and try to figure out your taste.
I personally prefer none ported speaker. The ported speaker's bass is not as solid and tight feel. The only down side about none ported speakers is power hungry. The end result is more dense, dynamic and deeper bass than ported speakers I've audition.
Also, many people I know who got bookself speakers didn't like its bass response. If you love bass then bookshelf speakers is definitely not for you.
Finding the right speakers depends on persistence and chance. Persistence in arranging auditions and listening to candidates first hand with sources which one knows intimately. Chance because the dealers one visits may carry speakers one would never have thought of auditioning. In my last round of speaker auditioning we also listened to speakers from B&W, JM Lab, Dynaudio and others at various price points. I also recall a pair of mighty handsome Sonus Faber's. I can imagine that some speakers from the manufacturers named would do good service for some listeners, depending on personal preference. The speakers we did not like have not been mentioned. Given time, audition more broadly, then decide what you would like to live with. Otherwise, I concur with the above: since the JM Lab's have already passed muster, they would seem to be an excellent choice. Odysseus spent a good part of his life travelling about before Proteus told him what he already knew.
Second GMA Europas...their spacious, 3-d sound is very musical and involving...wont win the hyper- detail or bass wars...but their overall midrange phasecorrect coherency easily bested offerings at over 2 x the cost...great monitor...downside...they weigh 45lbs each...and are pretty ugly...but hey...nothings perfect!
I'm looking for the same thing ... top of my list is the DynAudio S1.4 and B&W signature 805. The totem mani was nice as well just not memorable... I really wanted to like the Thiel PSC.. not bad but not great. The Proac 1SC are really nice (I'm a huge proac fan) but the 1.4 had better bass with that wonderful proac mid...
I have to disagree with S23chang. The De Capo will work beautifully with your 75 w tube amp. Everyone repeat after me: "The-DeCapo-is-not-just-an-SET-speaker" Good!
I run my De Capos with a 150-watt solid state amp. They play as loud, fast and deep as you possibly expect from a small speaker. The only limitation to the bass and volume in my system is my neighbors, nor the speakers. I am constantly explaining to people that the subwoofer attached to my system is NOT turned on--that's the De Capos.
For what it's worth, I've heard wonderful things about the ATC's as well (although I haven't heard them anywhere); however, they are supposed to be fairly power hungry. I'm sure your 75 tube watts would work, given your music preferences. But the De Capo is a pretty special speaker (that's why everyone gets so defensive about it); and I would put it up against a similarly-priced ATC any day for resolution and pure musicality.
Actually, a parliamentary point of procedure to go with my last post:
S23chang: Is your comment that De Capos wouldn't work with a 75 watt tube amp based on experience or intuition?
Of course everyone's entitled to their opinion. But I find it dangerous to make projections about equipment I haven't used.
If you have a chance, you should give the Proac Response 2 (original version, not 2s) a listen. The original version Response 2 is front ported which makes room placement less subjective opposed to the 2s which is back ported. They are used in several AA and Positive-feedback mag. reviewer's systems. I have a pair and just love how they sound with tubes. They are a little bigger than the 1SC and give better bass response, but require really good stands to sound best (preferably the Target R2 stands). Should be priced about the same as the 1SC.
Even if the De Capo works 'better' in your experience with SET's, it does not follow that it "will not work well with your 75W tube amp."
On the contrary, it will, in my experience, work beautifully with more power, as I discussed in my first post. Depending on email@example.com's listening habits and room size, he would likely run out of steam on his classical/orchestral music, pop and rock. He doesn't appear to be considering an SET anyway.
Sorry to get all semantic. I can only respond to what's in the post.
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The Sony SS M7a would impress you more than the B&W 805's. They are a stand mounted speaker with very good sound and a decent soundstage.
See my review if you are interested. I don't use mine anymore, but the review is accurate!
They can be found inexpensively and they are American designed and built.