best rca cable for deep controlled bass


What brand of cable that you have heard made the rca cable whit the better deep tight bass??
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Showing 7 responses by hifihvn

And yet electric takes about .000.000.001 second to travel one foot. Amazing.
Those cables must have odd characteristics then. We are talking about cables carrying audio frequencies.
If you don't know the difference between electricity and electronics, you have no business hanging out on this forum to make know-it-all, smart ass comments.

You're confusing the difference between electric current and electronic signal. They are two different things with different rules and characteristics. When we talk about "speed" in signal cables we're referring to signal rise time, which has little to do with the conducting speed of electricity and is entirely dependent on the bandwidth of the conductor. Electrical devices started with the light bulb and proceeded from there; they are concerned with conduction of current. Electronics began with tubes and deal with manipulating voltage fluctuations to create signals to mimic soundwaves or to convey other intricate patterns.

This difference has only been around since the 1920s. Try to keep up.
Johnnyb53 (Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

I may not be an EE, or the most up to date on some stuff, but before you try talking about how wires and cable work, you need to know what a watt is, from about 200 years ago.
You keep pushing that Onkyo amp as an amp that produces 350 watts. NOT POSSIBLE. Learn how to read basic specs, before you start getting nasty. You ran off a great member who won't post anymore, because of your being rude to him. He was right at the time also. Get educated. Grow up. Link for your 350 watt amp post that puts out under 55 watts per channel.[http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?aamps&1170999828&openusid&zzJohnnyb53&4&5#Johnnyb53]
It puts out a solid 100 wpc into 8 ohms and 175 into 4 ohms, both channels driven. It's able to deliver a lot of current when called for, and the amp sounds bigger than its power rating would suggest.

The amp in question is the Onkyo A-9555 hybrid switching integrated amplifier, rated at around 85 wpc into 8 ohms. Double that output into 4 ohms and sum the output of both channels to come up with Hifihvn's

Johnnyb53, you try to make an impression that you have a high level of knowledge like an Electrical Engineer. Anyone with some basic electronics education would know that you can't get something for nothing. This would be like a "Perpetual Motion Machine". The amp would save the worlds energy problems, if it worked like you must think it does. In the audio world, a stereo amp should be rated with both channels driven at the *same* time. This is why the IHF worked with the government years back, to get rid of phony "peak power" ratings. But no, these companies found loop holes in the law, and use them. The real companies use the true ratings, especially the high end American companies. This Onkyo consumes 110 watts max. That includes all loss do to thermal, and other issues in the design. *If* it ran at 100% percent efficiency (doesn't work that way) , that would give 55 watts RMS per channel. That 175 watt per channel quote, is from *your* figures, in *your* prior statement, not mine. If you want to be an Electrical Engineer, see if you could go to a University, and become one. You will have to do a lot of learning, and just can't throw some figures around there. That sure will not happen. Try to be more informed, and accurate. Link for your statement first, and link for Onkyo that has
specs that show it only consumes 110 watts.[http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?aamps&1170999828&openusid&zzJohnnyb53&4&5][http://www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m=A-9555&class=Amplifier&p=s]
Sure, a lot of equipment could put out more that it's designed for, but this is short term only. Audiophiles want their amps to give the real power(true watts RMS), both channels driven,20 to 20,000 hz, on a continuous basis. Now that these companies have found ways to use figures such as at 1khz, or whatever else they can to give you a phony rating. Here is an Onkyo receiver that can make one think it will give 135 watts a channel. But the test results show it is far from it. And they only tested it at 1khz, not at 20 to 20,000 hz. Sure an easy test, but failed. Links for this Onkyo.[http://www.us.onkyo.com/model.cfm?m=TX-NR1008&class=Receiver&p=f][http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/content/onkyo-tx-nr1008-av-receiver]

In reference to your second question, one would assume you know the basics, before getting into high tech talk.

Defining clipping as 1% THD, the A-9555 comfortably exceeded its rated power, clipping at 110Wpc into 8 ohms (20.4dBW), 175Wpc into 4 ohms (19.4dBW), and, with one channel driven rather than two, 245W into 2 ohms (17.9dBW) (footnote 1). There is a peculiar rise in the A-9555's THD+N percentage when the output reaches a few watts;

I can read. They pre-conditioned it at one third its rated power. Its rated power is at 1khz, not 20-20,000 hz hz. I only read that they tested it at the way they rated it, for
1 khz. Onkyo themselves say 85 watts at 1khz. Major difference. Don't understand? Apparently not. That's the problem. FWIW, that *at 1 khz* is one of the loopholes. Who listens to 1 khz only? And clipping? You I guess. Onkyo 1khz specs. LOL.
[http://www.stereophile.com/content/onkyo-9555-integrated-amplifier-specifications]