Best Pre for ATC 100's


Looking for a pre to run my atc 100 active- thinking about tube to soften the sound - any ideas?? would like to stay in the $4-5,000 range here on agon- thanks
fluffers
Fluffers: You referred to softening the sound; could you provide a little more desciption as what it is that you are trying to get rid of in the sound and the conditions under which you are experiencing the problem - i.e size of room, spl levels etc.
Of course, much modern music is highly compressed and unfortunately you will hear that compression as harshness - more so with ATC's than most speakers, which tend to have a more recessed upper midrange due to the use of large 5 or 6 inch drivers in most designs.

If you want solid state then the Benchmark DAC1 or pre version is a good cheap option with ATC. I mention this because you'll need to ensure there is no digital grain in the midrange but without losing nice details - ATC's are similar to good horn speakers in sound and have some "bite" in upper mids. IMHO the Benchmark DAC1 (includes a pre in some verisons) sounds clean and smooth without losing detail and is good value.

If you are using analog or already have a nice clean source then either a tube preamp or some room treatments may indeed help.

Consider your room - 100's need some breathing space as they can easily get to extremely loud spl's - you really need to sit back about 8 to 10 feet to get them sounding best, IMHO. In the case of ATC's 3 inch dome you get very little "beaming" in the mids so the off axis response is nearly the same as the on axis whereas other speakers tend to be increasingly weaker off axis as you go higher in frequency in the upper mids. This is why I suggested room treatments - if you treat reflection points then this will reduce upper mid reflections and a rug or carpet will help too. Remember you hear roughly 50/50 or 60/40 direct/reflected in a room.
The amps in ATC active speakers have rather low input impedance (10K ohms). There are those who believe in maintaining a very high ratio of amp input impedance/preamp output impedance. Perhaps coincidently, or perhaps not, the ACT preamps intended for use with ATC active speakers have uncommonly low output impedance (10 ohms). Many preamps have output impedance in the several hundred ohm range. A pre with ATC-like very low output impedance might be a good choice.
Der has a good point. The idea of not using an overly high input impedance is in order to reduce RF/EM or ground loop noise pickup from the audio connections.

Benchmark DAC1 Pre has a very low output impedance of around 30 ohms. The powerful drive capability of a preamp of this type will be such that it can drive extremely long runs on interconnects without any audible degradation effects due to capacitance. In contrast a preamp of 600 Ohms output impedance or higher may sound dull dynamically and even harsh especially as it becomes overdriven.

It goes without saying you should preferably be using a balanced preamplifier with XLR out but I assume you would not dare power ATC's with anything else.
I used a CA2(the older version) with a pair of the Active 20's and thought it was a great little preamp at the time. Had XLR outputs although it wasn't a truly balanced design, but still sounded great and was reasonably priced.

I don't know what the new versions of these are going for now as prices have increased quite a bit from 7-8 years ago. Tim
Check out
- Boulder
- Soulution

I personally used Boulder 1012 for 5 years and I have extremely happy with Boulder 1012 + ATC active 50/100.

I audit Soulution 720/721 + ATC active 100 and finish the whole piece of Bach 'Mass in B Minor'. So it must be good.
3rd the ATC preamp. They were designed to work with their speakers. I'm not saying nothing else is better, but I don't think there is at the price and with active ATC speakers. They're great on their own, and far better with their speakers IMO.
May I suggest better power cords and a power regenerator, and those parallel power line filters? Those have a humongous difference in the ATCs. They are very very sensitive to this sort of treatment.
Also, plenty of people I know run ATCs with tube preamps and I read online that YBA has the perfect preamps for them as well as the preamps from ATC's own line.
Don't forget to change the fuses as well. Though you need a professional to do them for you. The fuse holders are crazy hard to disassemble.
And you really should give us more details about what other components you have in your system. In particular, what dac or source are you using?
I have my ATC hooked on to a Ear Yoshino 868 pre amp, I also own the ATC CA2, but the sound with the EAR is just too sweet.
ATC sounds fantastic with tubes.
How about Linn klimax kontrol? Does it match, I am using Linn system and now interesting in the same ATC 100 active tower. Anyone has experience ?

Thanks