Scrap the 2 channel HT stuff...unless you are Amish, no 2 chanel can give you that theater feeling, dont drink the Kool-Aid! Get a good sub, (pay attention to Sub if you are going to use it for music) get a beefy center that has the same drivers as your fronts, and dont worry so much about matching the backs to the fronts, for serious SACD and DVD-A it is more critical though. Get 5.1 or 7.1 set-up with a good size screen and you will be in heaven, just remember to scrap the 2 channel theater idea. One more thing, for gods sake dont follow the 80HZ THX cross-over bullshit, that is a "standard" set for budget reasons, not performance. |
Not true, the 80HZ was set-up for a standard and was budget minded to keep theater owners happy, are you telling me that if you had say a Legacy center speaker wich can cycle down to near 20HZ it would be better to run it small and crossover at 80? You are correct about 2 good channels is better then 5 channels of "mediocrity" most members here already understand quality and can surely get good sound with using rules of position and acoustics, after all this is supposed to be a Audiophile website.
I do stand firm on my position that 80HZ is no way a end all be all to good home theater reproduction, after all a pooorly set up 80hz theater can sound poor also. This falls firmly in the realm of personal prefrence, I have had 4 systems for theater since the introduction of Dolby Pro Logic and I too know something about getting this right, it is also fair to note that THX on alot of gear is simply a badge of honor and doesnt amount to much at all, Lucas' has started handing these Labels out way too often IMHO.
As far as the millions in research and Oscar's for the industry folk, THX was pulled out of thin air, it is simply a set of guidelines created by few and accepted by many, they created it, packaged it and did a good job of marketing it and good for them but that still doesnt change the fact it is merely a set of parameters based on the opinions of the staff involved....it also was just a tittle they gave themselves, Michael Jackson named himself the "King of Pop"......that doesnt make it so though.
At the end of the day, it is still your opinion and mine, and neither means a whole hell of alot, I do respect your opinion, I just have my own..and I happen to be right hehe |
Lamb are you done? I was just wondering if people can get back to helping the man who started this thread, build your soap box then talk all you want, but this is another persons thread and I was trying to help, you are just running off at the mouth now...simma down |
RSbeck, good point, everyone can come here with opinions and argue whatever side of the fence they are on, but the poster will surely have alot more info , and in the end everyone is trying to help. |
I dont see to many people with your problem with center on top of your TV, how high is it all told? maybe if you toe it down a bit it might help, although I dont know how far back you are from it but even propping up the back of the center an inch or so may help, using the TV speakers at all has got to be a crime, unless you have some darn good speakers in yours, I find it rare that TV's have a speaker worthy of anything more than watching the local news, and the last 10 yrs out of the 4 TV's I have had I could probably count on one hand how many hours were used with the fatory TV speakers on, try and angle yours down just for kicks. |
Also yes alot of theaters have had,or still may have (I no longer go to movies) dialogue speakers behind the screen wich is why most HT units have a adjustment for this mostly called "Cinema EQ or Re-EQ" this was made for consumers to compensate for a "bright" image cast from the center on more of the older material when mixing for a home theater was not an issue. The image was brighter then needed to compensate for passing through the screen and in the process being "muffled" a bit.
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I to have a SONY XBR, it most likely is near field related
I havent heard anyone having your problem yet, maybe you have a more educated ear then most..good luck though |
TVAD, ever thought of trying the center directly under your Sony, say on a floor stand? |
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Rsbeck, get off your cloud, someone offering to help another on a 1 to 1 level is a great idea, do you have a problem because he isnt going to be talking to 10 people at once or because he isnt listening to you? You seem to think anyone who doesnt agree with you is beneath you |
Hey lil Davie, tell your Dad Chad said hi, and no lookin at porn while the folks are away...see ya Dave...I mean Dave's kid lol |
Hey Rsbeck,If ya dont like what is proposed in this thread, and it is very clear you think you are better than everyone else, then just shut up, unless you get off on being an asshole, by the way your so called great HT system has been posted for over 1 year now, yet nobody has said anything to you about it....hmmmm wonder why?
It is sad that you and your silly and useless arguements have twisted this thread into something the poster cant even gain anything by reading anymore, and seeing how you never can bring yourself to think a $5000 HT system can work then you should have never opened your over-used mouth. Saffy asked for help putting together a good HT with the money he has, he never asked if it can or cant be done...there was nothong productive in your post's, just an obvious snob attitude. |
Hey Dave!
I didnt notice you at first, we talked a while back about VMPS, nice to see you! |
focus on good 2 channel, and set up an acceptable HT, with video plus audio it isnt as critical as some make it out to be....this is supposed to be fun...I know the flood gates will open back up with the ultra ego know it all geeks, so I am gonna drop out and let the others be fools, all I can say is I have a 2 channel set-up that I get enjoyment from, added to that I have an HDTV and surround speakers and it is fun, music is great and a good movie is really thrilling with all the speakers in the room.
If it was me you asked, (wich you did not personally) I would tell you that 2 channel movies suck, and the more people you have in the room, the more it sucks, stereo movies are 1980's technology and to not enjoy the advancements in Home entertainment technology is a shame, you can be VERY happy with a mid-fi HT and not go broke or crazy trying to get it just perfect, if you are anal and have no life, follow others and there antiquated ideas of 2 channel movies. Or be a normal human being, get a few more speakers, set them up on the wall and add a center channel under or on top of your monitor, pop in a DVD and live life like 99% of the rest of the HT world.
As long as you have the 2 channel down, follow these simple steps and you will have your cake and eat it too, plus you will have fun and a life! best wishes in your quest for home theater, feel free to mail me private if you wish and let RS and lamb babble on about who has less of a life and who knows more about HT.
Best Regards, Chad |
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With a none-pro scan DVD, I doubt you will like the results, you will get a "screen door" affect. The pixel will probably be very visible unless you are fairly far back, but it may work.
As for speakers, pay close attention to the center it works the hardest, dont skimp here.
Are you using existing speakers for front L/R? If not do you want full range floor standers or monitors?
5.1 or 7.1? 6.1 is a bad idea, only 1 speaker in back will give you cancelation problems.
Another thing to think about is a standard mono-pole speaker, or a wider sound of a bi, or di-pole for surrounds
I would have to say a sub is a must, but if you are ever going to want to get into SACD or other multu-channel music you may want to look into a "fast" sealed-subwoofer.
And when looking into a projector, pay close attention to fan noise, some are pretty loud and annoying at low level play-back.
as always email me if you wish....best regards Chad |
you dont need a $1500 sub, nor do you need to spend 1000$ for rears, but I wont comment on projector, only to say I hope you have a very dark room for it.
I would think you could get both a sub and rears for less then $1500 total used, but I will leave it the know it alls to comment on that |
