Best bit-rate for MusicMatch MP3?


What have others found to be the best-sounding bit-rate for Musicmatch MP3?

Also, does it make an audible difference if you use a different MP3 decoder (e.g. Winamp with LAME) than what you used to encode (Musicmatch)?
mshan
I use Exact Audio Copy (EAC) and LAME. There are instructions around for using LAME as an external call, which allows you access to more LAME switches. For mp3s, I use --alt preset extreme, a variable bit rate scheme that sounds better, to my ear, than 192 kbps constant bit rate encoding with files about the same size. There is an --alt preset insane, but that doesn't yield much in terms of compression. If you like the MM interface, the mp3s can be imported into your MM library.
Hi Ed:

Is it consensus that 192 kbps is, in general, the best sounding constant bit codec for MP3s? (I also use EAC for ripping CDs was WAVs. I am just looking for an MP3 format that sounds good on my computer speakers and other mid-fi equipment.)

P. S. - if you are not already aware, there is an excellent online guide to EAC at:

http://www.ping.be/satcp/tutorials.htm
No, 192 kbps is not the best sounding constant bit rate (CBR) coding...(BTW, "codec" is actually short for encoder/decoder.)

The higher the bitrate, the better sounding mp3 you will generate. I think you may be able to go up to 420 kbps CBR with LAME. The problem is that the higher the bit rate, the less compression of the file you achieve. I found, for my use (iPod while traveling), that the size of the mp3s generated at 192 kbps CBR was about right. After learning more about coding mp3s, I shifted to the -alt preset extreme, which codes at a variable bit rate. The theory is that different temporal chunks of the music are encoded at different sample rates based on the complexity of the chunk being converted. As a result, there will be parts encoded at a rate higher than 192 kbps, and parts encoded at less than 192 kbps. But, I've found that the overall size of the resulting mp3 is about the same size as the mp3s I created at 192 kbps CBR, they just sound better to me.

I believe the -alt presets were created by the coding community as being the optimal sound you can achieve for a particular compression ratio. There are other -alt presets (I use "extreme") that are their best shot at optimal sound for other compression ratios. Its all about how much compromise you are willing to live with for the sake of disk space used.
I use the Exact Audio Copy with Lame to convert MP3's for listening to on my computer as background music when I am in the mood while working. There is a great link I found for configuration of EAC with Lame and I suggest whoever is involved in MP3's should definitely consider this option. The link is

http://www.chrismyden.com/nuke/modules.php?op=modload&name=MP3DB&file=painless