"In my system with my electronics" The Bat SE 600M monoblocks literally kicked the crap out of the Ayres. I'm driving Soundlab A-1 speakers so that may have had an effect. I mentioned this to a rep of Ayres at last years Rocky Mountain and was told to buy better speakers. That spoke volumes to me about the company itself. They're pretty proud of their gear. Sonically the Bats just had more of everything, more dynamics, better bass, better imaging, bigger sounstage etc.. This wasn't a subtle difference and everyone that heard it couldn't believe the differences. These were a buddies MXR's and he sold them shorly after and bought a Audio Research tube amp instead. Not trying to pick a fight with Ayre and I prefaced this with "my system" but for 20grand it should at least be close. Good luck.
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