B&W 801M vs. 801 Series 2, etc


Hello,

I found a pair of B&W 801M at a decent price but am confused by the model.  I currently own the B&W 802 series II and am familiar with their Matrix lineup. 

According to B&W's archive model sight and my general knowledge, I know there is the 801 series 80 (non-Matrix), 801 series 2, and 801 series 3, both Matrix.  I'm guessing the 801M must be essential 801 series 1?  There really doesn't seem to be any info out there about this model and it is the only Matrix model not listed on their archive site.

Does anyone have any info, specs, comparison to Series 2?

thanks,
dastro
How much are u gonna pay for them? Are u sure u want bw? There are plenty of brands Thst will out sound bw dollar for dollar. Usher,  vienna even paradigm.
I'm getting a fantastic deal on them.  I was able to find out they are the series 2.

Sound quality characteristics and perspective are incredibly personal.  That is why opinions vary so wildly.  To answer your question, I've heard all the Paradigms and think they look and sound somewhat cheap.  I've auditioned the Vienna Imperials but wasn't moved.

I once listened to a pair of Wilson Sasha's perfectly dialed in playing acoustic Stones with top of the line Audio Research components- that was the best sound I've ever experienced.  But, there are people on this forum and around the world that will tell you they are ugly, overpriced, mediocre performers.
I know there is the 801 series 80 (non-Matrix), 801 series 2, and 801 series 3, both Matrix. I'm guessing the 801M must be essential 801 series 1?
Hi dastro 

It can get confusing but the label on the back of the speakers reveals the truth. Visually the first series 801 (non matrix) is a sealed box. Series 2 and 3 are ported designs and when used with the BAF are full range to 20 hz. Otherwise all 801' are good to 45 hz with the box size/tuning.

Some more info 

The Series 80 is also known as the 801F.  It was not officially called series 1 - but really is and would be if it was labeled as such. The 801 series 2 is the first model to use matrix technology, followed by series 3.

All details, specs, service manuals ,etc.... can be found at bwsupport.
Scroll down to the matrix 800 series and you will find that they included the 801 F with the matrix 800 series section. This is what makes it confusing.

http://bwgroupsupport.com/manuals/bw-archive

Thanks, ct0517,

Here is the response I just got from B&W:

The 801M is the first generation that officially used the Matrix name. Before Series 2 came out there were the series 80 models and a few other letters like the 801F and 801M.


I'm going to go ahead with the purchase and see how they sound vs. my 802 S2.  Also, I'm curious if the 801 alignment filter works with the 801M.

Before Series 2 came out there were the series 80 models and a few other letters like the 801F and 801M.
confusing :^(

If the "801m" has a front port, and is bi-wire capable - I am willing to bet it’s the same as a Series 2 and this is a B&W marketing thing.
But - if either of those two characteristics are missing - and it has matrix construction inside - then indeed it is unique.
can anyone advice how much to pay for  B&W 801 Series 2 in good condition- Private buy. Thanks for any reply!