Axpona 2019


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1. Sanders
2. Spatial
3. Vimberg 

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Showing 5 responses by audiotroy

Jchip, agree with some of your points but disagree with the last.


You are rarely going to hear these products sounding exactly how good they can sound when optimally setup however you can get an idea overall of the flavor of the product.

For example all the Magico's sounded the same which to us is boring, clean, but boring in every room similar sound.

There were a few exceptions which lead us to rethink the sound that we have generally associated with some of these products.

Most rooms using Wilsons at this show sounded very good, still think that you can get better sound for the money with some of the other brands but overall some of the demos were very impressive.

The Golden Ear Triton 1R were in our mind one of the standouts for the money for $6k they sounded totally different then the sound we associated with Golden Ear which tends to be either too bright or too boomy. The soundstage was huge, the bass tight and the top end was balanced. Was it the room the gear the new model?

Have heard the Mura Electrostatics and these are always fantastic.

Another big surprise was the Grande Utopia EM this new version was amazing, especially on the big Naim Statements what a sound.

Vimbergs sounded superb.


New Dali Calistro active speakers were impressive for $5,700.00 speakers, streaming hub and Blue OS just plug in the speakers and you are good to go.

Heard the Elac $1,200.00 monitors they sounded bright did not impress us at all.

The Paradigm 3F with Anthem room correction sounded excellent.

The T+A gear in both room was very good as well.

So the take away was that some of the rooms really did showcase the products well or at least well enough to see if someone would want to take the next step and explore that product either at a dealers or in their home.

Dave and Troy

Audio Doctor NJ, T+A, Paradigm, Anthem, Dali, Elac, dealers

Ozzy the big T+A speakers are $75k a pair, I would love to see a speaker built like that for $7,500.00 the other Criterion small aluminium loudspeakers are $15k a pair so maybe they were being listed at $7,500.00 each.

The thing with the Triton 1R is that you are getting a loudspeaker with incredible bass via two built in subwoofers, and a big soundstage for $6k which does make them a wee bit of a bargain.

We are now looking at adding Golden Ear to our staple of floor standing loudspeakers which would then give us in the $4-8k price range: Kef R 11, Dali Rubicon 6, Paradigm Prestige, Quad Z4, PSB T3, Elac Adante, Legacy Signatures.

What do you guys think of that line up are there any other mega value loudspeakers that we would be missing from major manufacturers?

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ

Michael your attitude is counter to most of the industry and what most real audiophiles can actually do.

Most people don’t have the luxury of having a room totally devoted to audio in a way that you would espouse.

Most people’s listening room is their Living Room, or spare bedroom, sometimes with a few modifications in terms of room tuning, lucky are the few audiophiles with rooms devoted strictly to their music systems.

We are not disagreeing with you that it is nice to be able to pull off such a room.

We have heard purpose built rooms which were mediocre at best some were over damped, vs some real rooms that sounded excellent. There is a lot you can do with a some carefully placed furniture, rugs, bookcases, and a few room tuning accessories, yours included.

The point of a show is to get a gauge of what products may sound like in a way that product X will intrigue you to move to take the  next logical step of wanting to check that product out in a controlled environment, or not, and in that way regional or national shows are a valuable tool. The reality today is that there are large parts of the country where there are no  audio dealers or the dealers selection is very sparse or the dealer sells good speakers but doesn't have complimentary electronics.

We are not saying that the room isn’t important it is however, many audiophiles face room constraints that their rooms are too big, too live, too small, and they don’t have the luxury of being able to employ tons of tube traps, or acoustic panels because their wives or girlfriends would object to their Living Rooms looking like recording studios.

So yes you can have a mutually exclusive dedicated music room where you can hide away from the world and listen or you can choose to tweak up a Family Room or Living Room and still get excellent sound in the light of day without excluding others from listening with you.

One of the reasons for the explosion of Sonos is that music everywhere brings the joy of music to a much wider audience.

We are not saying that because we endorse Sonos but higher quality streaming products encourage others to join in on the fun hence we recommend Naim who makes excellent streaming loudspeakers and amplifiers.

Another trend is electronic room correction which we feel will still not obviate the need for room tuning but goes a long way into making shitty rooms sound better without having to employ panels everywhere.

The demo at AXPONA with the Anthem STR integrated and a pair of the Persona 3F was done in an untreated room and the sound quality of this little system was tremendous because of the advantages of room tuning done in the digital domain.

The demo with Legacy at the New York audio show also demonstrated that power of electronic room correction. The system of the Legacy Aeris combined with a $10k Raven integrated amplifier and a $5k Wavelet room correction processor/dac was roughly a $35k-40k package.

This system was pure magic and they had 0 acoustical treatments in a regular sized Hotel Room and the sound was thrilling, a huge soundstage, all frequencies were balanced, the system sounded better than many $100k setups we have heard.

So Michael you should welcome any and all audiophiles into this hobby with the understanding of what works for some doesn’t work for all us included.


Dave and Troy

Audio Doctor NJ


Prof not disagreeing with you. The advances in electronic room correction are huge. 

At Axpona the Paradigm 3F on the Anthem STR showed this beautifully.

The room had 0 acoustical treatments and with the Anthem Room correction the little 3F had ridiculous bass extension and definition in lower frequencies, even the addition of a $6,500.00 sub did little to improve the sound. 

When we did the New York Audio show in 2016 with the Persona 9H in a Hotel room that was of similar size we got a tidal wave of clean tight bass which would have been impossible without electronic room correction.

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ