Aurender vs. Roon


I would greatly appreciiate any input on something I was told yesterday by a learned audiophile. A) that aurenders conductor app is inferior to roon. That is probably a given. However, I thought Roon will interact with the conductor app. so if that is the case then you can have the best of both worlds.  Also, Roon has better audio quality the Aurender? Aside from that, is the landscape moving toward Roon? Reason I ask is I have been looking at Aurender streamers to purchase and there seems to be more and more of them for sale on Audiogon and US Audio Mart etc. Is it possible Roon Ready devices are going to be the newest frontier so why bother with Aurender if they are not going to support it? Thanks in advance for any insight or suggestions.
mrdon

Showing 15 responses by grannyring

How long does someone wait ordering one today? Not sure about their business model as they don’t seem to have a handle on production and demand realities.

I would buy one if I knew when I was getting it.  
Problem is nobody seems to be able to get the new Innuous units.   I have had several friends just give up and cancel orders. Do they really ship products now? No joke. 

I was also interested, but turned off by the months and months of waiting my friends were dealing with. 
I was not asking you thyname. I was asking the dealer who is posting here.  
How long a wait Audio Doctor if I order an Innuous today? Their site still suggests they are not filling orders.
Question on Innuos Zen mk3. Audio Doctor may know the answer. 

I use a Roon DSP and need my server to be powerful enough to run the various Roon DSP options including upsampling to DSD, EQ settings etc...
Will the Zen mk3 handle this? My current windows based PC does and never drops below 3.2x.  I want to replace it with the Zen for sound quality, but not if the Zen is not powerful enough for Roon DSP.  


The comparison is the sound quality.  I am willing to keep the window based computer as a Roon core and the SOTM Trifeca as the endpoint. The Innuos allows me to sell the windows computer.  The two can be compared from this standpoint.  Just two different ways to accomplish great sound with the Innuos being less expensive.  Will it sound as good? Not sure.  Perhaps not, but still a nice jump from what I have. 
I don’t bait ever. I just asked an honest question as I am deciding between the Zen and SOTM Trifeca. You must not know me🙂, By the way it seems like a very good and reasonable question. Innuos replied to me saying it will handle up to DSD 256, not 512. I upsample all files right now with a powerful windows based server. Looking to improve SQ and still have this ability. I am sure others would also like to know.

Here is the answer I was given directly from Innuos,

“Hi William,

The ZEN Mk3 will be capable of all DSP tasks up to DSD upsampling 256. It will not support up to 512 however. The processor noise created by such an intensive task is so great that it actually outweighs the benefits of the upsampling to begin with - we find it keeping it close to bitperfect as possible is best.”


The info on the website conflicts with what I was told directly. I will point this out and see what they say. I hope the website just has outdated info. They seems quite confident in their direct response to me. I just want DSD128 as that sounds best to me in my room and rig.



Very impressed with Innuos response time! Goodness they are very good.  Here is what they just said to me....

”Hi William,
Well spotted, we will need to update this as this would have been relevant to the MkII series.The new Mk3 units can handle DSD128 upsampling with no problems at all.”

I will be buying one for sure as I will no longer need my windows based computer.  

I sure hope I can take Innuos at their word on this Roon DSP question. Stephen Healy sure gave an strong and certain positive answer.  
I use a Lyngdorf 2170 heavily modified by me.  Also use the SOTM TXultrausb and 500 power supply also modifidied. My own brand of USB cables and upgraded Poe based DC cables. 
I will still use the SOTM combo. Thanks for the additional info! My current server sounds very good and I do hope the Innuos sounds at least as good.  Just won’t know until I get it I guess.  I have my current Sound Science Music Vault Ultra II pretty tricked out and analog sounding.  I am intentionally curious and want to try the Innuous.  
Just purchased the Innuos Zen 3 with 1 TB of storage.  Will use it with my SOTM TXUltrausb reclocker and SOTM 500 power supply. 
Hopefully will get it mid February.  
Thanks thyname.  The dealer let me use a Roon Nucleus until the Zen 3 is in. I love how simple this unit is to use with a Roon and a Tidal. Took me 5 minutes! Nice. 

However, the sound is just average and nothing special.  My old tricked out Windows based computer with SOTM Usb card sounded better for sure. Sure hope the Zen 3 is a huge step up as I already sold my computer/server. 

I wish a had a LPS to power the Nucleus. I bet that would help greatly. 
I sold my Music Vault from Neil.  It did have many mods and upgrades including the SOTM usb card, linear poser supply, Audiophile Optimizer, Fidelizer Pro and SOTM usb reclocker. With the SOTM power supply.  

I loved this unit for years. Neil is great. The Innuos Zen III is just more musical to me.  I really like the Innuos!