Audiophiles are not alone


In the current (May 13th-19th, 2017) edition of the Economist there is a short piece entitled "Violins" that I want to bring to your attention.  It is about new violins and old violins, specifically Cremonese (Guarneri, Stradivari, Amati) vs. Joseph Curtin (modern violin maker in Michigan).  With Dr. Claudia Fritz of the University of Paris, presiding, experiments were held in Paris and New York that proved to the majority of both musicians and listeners (other musicians, critics, composers etc.) that new fiddles out performed old ones.  There were some sort of goggles used so that the players could not tell what instrument they were playing.  The audience was also prevented from seeing the instruments somehow.  All this done without inhibiting sound transmission.  Both solo and orchestrated works were performed.  You can read the whole story in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.  And this is only the latest evidence of this apparent reality, as according to the article, similar experiments have reached similar conclusions prior to this.  The article concluded with the observation that these results notwithstanding, world class players are not about to give up their preference for their Cremonese fiddles.

This reminds me very much of some of our dilemmas and debates such as the ever popular: analog vs. digital, tube vs. transistor, and subjective listening vs. measured performance parameters.  If it has taken a couple of hundred years and counting for the debate on fiddles to remain unresolved, what hope have we to ever reach resolutions to some of our most cherished and strongly held preferences?  This is asked while hugging my turntables and tube electronics.
billstevenson

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The ONLY science that matters in music is neuroscience .
Every human is an unique organic being who hears what they hear not a piece of wood .
If you can’t hear what a Strad really is ,an act of love made by a lover to serve the love supreme,
it’s not due to what you "hear" .
And the fact you happen to be a musician has no bearing on the matter .
Going to rock concerts is, eye, ear and throat is a good way to get rich as a doc .
In a society that worships money there are connections to everything's market value and none to anything's real value .
As Shakespeare said in Hamlet , "There are more things in heaven and earth ... than are dreamt of in your philosophy" .

Studies like this are conducted by people who think we can know everything, we can’t . Some things are just a mystery and that’s that and is as it should be .
I was in a small hall in a small town in Wisconsin listening to a fine touring trio "Trio Copenhagen" playing the Ravel.
I was no more than 20 feet away from the violinist , one of the Korean wonders , and her sound overwhelmed me and I do mean overwhelmed me, as in I was shaking . And I’ve been to a lot of concerts .
Had a little meet and greet after and I asked her what kind of violin do you have? She was obviously tired from the tour and she said just one word , Guarneri .
I believe the Creator blew his breath upon that instrument .

rcprince, I have heard that more than once.
In my case the other players were not drowned out at all, her husband, a Dane, played a fine Steinway, her sister, the the cello player and another Korean tiger, had a great sound as well. I think I was just closer to the violinist .
It must be something in the water in Korea , we have 3-4 Korean players
in our world-class St. Paul CO and they are beyond good.
Gil the Great played the Mendelssohn here and as soon as it ended he made a bee-line straight to the Korean violist and shook her hand like crazy .

I did have a similar thing happen a few years ago down in Rochester(MN) with local talent playing Brahms .
All the Quartet players were up to it but the cello played has such a fine instrument it made the whole very hard to listen to . Talked to her for a minute after, didn't ask about the instrument. but learned she was a Eastman grad, turned Doc at Mayo .

If you don’t understand you don’t understand . Simple as that .
Nobody understands everything .