PLANETARIUM Beta, not Auditorium. A true senior moment. Sorry, Duke!
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> I sure dont get the Ayre,S 30 II swap
key words from the initial post: "not entirely voluntarily". In other words, this is largely a financial decision.
Having said that, the Planetariums are 96 dB efficient. The MX-Rs would have been serious overkill in terms of power. In addition, the Atma-Sphere products, all of them, are superb. I probably would have been using either the MA-1s or MA-2s on the SoundLabs instead of the Ayres if I could have stood the heat. However, I live near Houston, with tropical weather much of the year. It just wasn't going to happen.
Basically, I'll be using the same amp with which the speakers were designed.
Congratulations, I've been using Duke's speakers for about a year now (Stormbringers, now Jazz Modules) and would love to get enough space to try the new series with SWARM. I think these use the new TD-12M drivers from John Janowitz at Audio Elegance. Heard them at RMAF and was impressed. At CES they were not being used with the SWARM (VRS room) and as such bass suffered.
Also, would like to hear how the S-30 works out. I've been running my speakers with VAC Auricle Musicbloc MB70s but had been contemplating the M-60s. Had a chance to hear the S-30 in Ralph's room at CES and was impressed.
I believe you're right regarding the source of the drivers.
> At CES they were not being used with the SWARM (VRS room) and as such bass suffered.
If this was the case, they certainly weren't being auditioned in the best light. My rough estimate is that the main speakers by themselves are down 6 dB or so at 60 Hz (by design).
Since these are 16-22 ohm speakers, the S-30 will output about 45 wpc. This should be WAY more than enough power. I'll let you know. Feel free to email me for updates if you like.
Unfortunately the TAD (Pioneer) pro drivers used in the Jazz Modules and Dream Makers are getting difficult for Duke to purchase as it requires a large bulk order. However, it appears the new drivers are an excellent substitute.
When I spoke to Vincent Sanders, whose room the speakers were in at CES, the reason he said he was not using the SWARM was purely based on cosmetics. He did have another set of sub-woofers he was planning on using, but when I was visiting the room they were not hooked up and I never went back to see if they were even used at all.
Kind of a shame because in the years that I've gone to RMAF Duke's room has been one of my top five favorites. I'm not certain the speakers were done justice at CES.
I don't think my Jazz Modules go as high as the new series. While they are consistently above 8 ohm, 12 ohm might be the limit. Still, it will create more power and I know Duke uses an S-30 with these speakers as well, but he did recommend that if I wanted to play louder the M-60s with the Jazz Modules could be a better match.