Audiogon Ethics


I have been an Audiogon member for a couple of years and am very fond of the idea that we are building a community of audiophiles based on trust and honesty. I recently saw a sales ad for a piece by a member who I sold an identical piece to a few months ago (I can't say it is my original piece but it would strike me as odd that someone would own two identical units). If the seller is indeed advertising the unit I initially sold him, he is misrepresenting the condition of the unit (e.g., implying that he purchased it new and that its age is less than it actually is). My question to everybody on this list is what, if anything, to do about this?

I am concerned about the implications of dishonesty for our community of audiophiles in general. I believe this question merits discussion among members. I look forward to your responses. Thanks.

Volker
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In the past year I've gone through a lot of equipment in my pursuit of finding a particular component that I'm happy with. A lot of the items I bought I simply turned right around & sold when I determined they were simply not what I was looking for. Conversely, a few of the items I sold were very soon back up for sale. Every single item had a higher asking price which doesn't necessarily mean it sold for that amount.

Here's another example. I had for sale an item & advertised it for the fair market price. Somebody emailed me & asked me if it was the same item I had bought from somebody else that this particular person knew about at xxx price. I said yes, offered him the same price & never heard a word from him again. Was he really interested in this item? Was he working on his Jr. private dick's license? Most of the time the asking price is on the high side & it is expected that a little bargaining take place. Lowballing is totally different & I won't even go there.

Another deal I made involved trading amps. Originally I had no desire for this trade but the other party contacted me a second time after a few weeks of "will buys" & "gotta haves" so I decided to try it out. Well, to make a long story seem that way, while I was waiting for delivery of this amp I made a deal with a dealer to trade it in on some new speakers. I got the same money that I paid for it because it was at fair market price. I noticed shortly thereafter the other party had the traded item up for sale also. Did I care? No. Would I deal with this person again? Absolutely. We both got what we wanted or thought we wanted at the time.

Thing is, there's not a lot that can be done. The only action you can take is directly ask this person if it is indeed the same item & if so ask that the ad be modified. Otherwise you can report the situation to A-gon, as you have first hand verifiable knowledge of said discrepancies. You do have this information, i.e. SN, copy of receipt to prove age, etc., correct? I bring all this up not to agitate you but to point out just some of the frustrations. If they say it's not the same item there's nothing you can do.

The only thing I can say is do indeed stick to your values while at the same time not get too bogged down in the inanity of it all.