Thanks for responding you guys. I checked out the Passion components & kits a while ago and decided if I am going to go that that direction it is going to be the Edison 60 for it's versatility (SE, UL, 300B, etc) and overwhelmingly stellar reviews. In fact, that's what I am saving my pennies for! But, it may be a while before I can afford the full jump to tubes, so I thought I would get the Complete or Puccini SE used in the meantime. There was one of each for sale here on Audiogon for $595 yesterday and another Complete w/ remote and pre-out board for $695 (sorry Jeff). At $600 I can afford it and either way I would have excellent sound until I can go all the way valve.