Audio Note Dac 1.1x


Anyone familiar with this?
I am searching for a new dac, and got a deal on a factory refurnished (latest upgrades) for about 500$ with warranty.
http://www.audiolimits.com/html/body_audionote_dac.html
A link for more information.
I was initially thinking about the Trivista Dac or the Audio Aero prima Dac and I know they are more expensive and of course better, but how much?. I read some posts here regarding Audio Note Dacs, and that they have a "upgrade" program.
Is it possible to upgrade the 1.1 to i.e. 2.1x signature?
I like to tweak and work with my equipment, and want to try out several "upgrade" options in this dac.
My cd player now is the Copland CDA288X with Lclock XO2 upgrade. Some other modifications have been done also. It is good, but I want some more nerve in the music.

But what I really want is the AN dac3.1 balanced, but that is another story..

Best Regards
bambadoo

Showing 3 responses by rapogee

Hi Gliderguider

Interesting, and thank you for your input, could you also please be kind enough to include some of the other dac's you have tried along with the AN DAC. Its good to know the reference point I guess and thank you kindly.

rapogee
Everyone is going to hate me for this :)

To be honest, I was shopping for a good dac for a while, look under smoothes dac in my longtimeago discussion! After talking to people who own AN Dac’s and talking to retails and other user in the forum and in person and also Audio Note UK.

I bought 2 dac’s the 1.1 and the DAC 3.1 Balance!
Well to be honest, I did not like both of them! Dac 3.1 was better but not for the money.
I am not a tech guy but more of a listener, over 20 years of it too and still loving it!

I got so many (+) feedbacks for this product and bought it based on that, my advise it to try it out for yourself before buying it online used or new.
Before I go on, please make sure you don’t get confused with AN and the designs of
Mr. Niro’s super high-end stuff, they are a difference thing all together! They are priced differently for a reason.

My impression before buying as what was told to me:

Warm, tubish sound with wonderful midrange and fantastic highs! Very musical, sounds like analog!

Well my opinion, it will never sound like analog, no digital will for a long long time I assure you until people start improving the software, if you don’t agree, try listening to this great album “Fleetwood Mac – Say You Will” their latest studio, the album should have been called “ COMPRESSION You Will”, that’s what it is! Disappointed!

At the same time, (there are companies who are trying and doing a great step forward in digital hardware ex: Anagram Technologies along with Audio Aero, Meridian Audio, Theta Digital, Aurum Acoustics Canada to name a few………….) and they don’t come cheap!

Getting back to Audio Note:
They look good and the built quality is good!
Sound, lack of resolution big time, there is a line between warm sounding and dull sounding with no detail. There were something that’s not right about these dac’s, Called Audio Note and called everyone after buying and same deal, changed cables, changed amps, changed speakers, changed set-up and acoustics the full deal for 3 months and same sound. I learnt it the hard way, to be honest……….my 8 year old THETA GEN3 ii had better resolution – Much much WARMER sounding than the tube unit so do speak and more enjoyable, (Fleetwood Mac was listenable) and the BASS- don’t even go there! The Theta creamed the AA in ever way possible! In 3 different systems and all my friends (panellist) agreed on it without a doubt!

So what I am trying to say, reviews, personal opinions, what every it may be, GO TRY IT OUT FOR YOURSELF, do NOT listen to the mumbo jumbo techs stuff of upsampling and zero upsampling, no upsampling and what ever, plug it in and listen and let your ears be the judge, good luck!
I am here to provide a professional opinion to this forum so that one can feel free to express and learn from our experiences. I am going to stick with that and avoid remarks by others.

I also have to stress that I dont believe oversampling reveals more detail or that its better. I just did not like the the AN 1.1x and the 3.1 to my ears, I sold it on AA after buying it and someone bought it and ended up selling it 1 month later since he was looking for the images I have used before for my add.
I asked and he had the same problem, no resolution compared to my Classe CDP he said,. I am into tubes so that will give you an idea straight to Sonus Fabers as the primary system. I play classical music (cellist)and I am a big hifi nut for over 20 years, I just heard some much more from other units so............its an opinion :)

My advise to buyers of these DAC in particular, TRY before you BUY!

Good luck

Anway