Regardless of the general quality or sound quality of the Atmasphere products I would not touch the stuff because Atmasphere seems to feel it is necessary to denigrate perceived competitors on this forum in a manner which could easily be seen as malicious.Which is probably why some of those types of posts have had to be removed by administrators.I am sure there are more fair minded and gracious producers in the business that are more deserving of our support.
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I will not give examples.That will only give oxygen to those comments and it is not in the best interest of anybody here to do that.Anybody can suffer from a lapse of judgement and suspect that is really what has happened here.People in this business/hobby do tend to get passionate about things and sometimes their enthusiasm can get the better of them.Best just to move on.
If you can't find the offending posts then you simply have not looked very hard.Also some of the worst of these comments have been deleted by the administrators.Several others have responded to Atmasphere and cautioned him about these comments and tried to get him to conduct himself in a more reasonable and considered manner.Here is an example of one-
steakster854 posts04-04-2019 5:23am@atmasphere IMHO, from my perspective - years ago, you kind of set the gold standard for the manner in which a manufacturer participates in these discussions. Your knowledge, experience and cordiality has earned enormous respect and appreciation in our community. It would be great if certain dealers followed your example. Yet, the posts in this particular thread appear to be an outlier. Perhaps, you were responding to the OP’s question more as an avid audiophile rather than a manufacturer. This would make perfect sense. With you wearing several hats as a manufacturer, audiophile and musician, it is quite remarkable. Yet, when one manufacturer comments on a competing manufacturer’s product, there is an invisible line that needs to be respected.
And this comment- celander1,479 posts04-04-2019 3:27amRalph, you might want to review all of your posts here besides the first one.
And this one- rsf507528 posts04-04-2019 1:28amAgree with @steakster have always admired Ralph with his very insightful posts but I think he took this thread too far in the wrong direction.
And this one- 04-04-2019 5:21amRalph, it’s understandable to me that you really don’t see what you’re doing in this thread. It’s clear that you’re trying to broaden the OP’s view to include other products. It’s likely that the OP has single-ended connections but that’s not the point: he has stated his preferences and asked for feedback on those TWO preferences from consumers who own those products.
You have systematically attacked [xxxxxx] products out of the gates. To wit
I am sorry it came to this but Atmasphere was just not listening and thought that intruding on a thread about his products the way that he has done to other products might make him see sense and desist from that behaviour.For his own good as much as anything.To his credit he has deleted some of those comments.
I would be happy for this entire thread to be deleted.Hopefully I have made my point.
"Please open up your mind and understand the scope and reasonableness of the cautionary statement "
No you are quite wrong.Modern adhesives are extremely robust and are highly suited to all sorts of engineering,building and industrial applications.They are also more capable of maintaining their integrity following knocks and shocks than more rigid alternatives.And that type of adhesive is what is used in that product.I have seen components come loose from nuts and screws fracturing due to shock or contraction/expansion .That is much less likely to happen with a good adhesive.I run a business involved with constuction and the use of adhesives like that as well as other fastening materials.Modern adhesives are fantastic products.
So those comments were anything but reasonable and could very easily be judged as malicious.And if they were reasonable why did Atmasphere delete many of the worst ones himself [which he said he had done] when other members here cautioned him to do so?
Here is an article on the trend towards replacing welding and bolting of components in the automotive industry with adhesives because they are structurally superior.