ATC ACTIVE VS PASSIVE


i am trying out the little ATC SCM 11 with my Pass Labs Xa 100.8 .sounds wonderful.  Cannot get any other ATC speaker for demo.
wonder whether bigger ATC with my Pass Labs would sound better than ATC active as my amp is really very special
alfa100
There really is no comparison the larger ATC SCM 19 are better in every way. We have voth the 11 and the 19 on display.

The 19 have a bigger soundstage, deeper bass, greater clarity in the midrange, they are shockingly good and would sound fantastic on your amp

Troy resident geek, Dave owner
Audio Doctor
www.audiodoctor.com 
No one can answer if you'd prefer ATC active or ATC passive + Pass amp except you.

However, the active speaker will have lower IMD since there is an amp for each driver handling only a specific frequency range. For example, a pair of 3-way active speakers has 6 amps; each amp specified to work with its associated driver and frequency band. 

Also, even though some very good 2-way speakers have been created, they are a fundamentally compromised design. The mid/woofer cannot do an optimal job with either the bass or the midrange. 

Depending on the size of your room, you might consider this ATC active:

ATC SCM25A
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SCM25A

Review here:
http://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/atc-scm25a


Seems SCM 25a is not available anymore
It's listed on ATC's web site:
http://atcloudspeakers.co.uk/professional/loudspeakers/scm25a-pro/

Sweetwater doesn't list it as unavailable.

So, why do you think it's no longer available?

I too had the 11’s for a week and decided to go the 19’s...was very impressed with the 11’s and in my room they would have worked wonderfully...but stepping up to the 19’s/sound anchor’s...wow...get the pro driver and just everything is just a another level...highly recommend...oh and i would have always wanted and wondered about 19’s if i had the 11’s...With your amp...would think quite pleased.

I think the biggest advantage of an active powered speaker is there is none of the mismatching of components to the speaker...it "perfect" match...and yes that is very desirable...but I do think the passives are amazing as well...with jazz and well recorded material...I placed them no diffraction (straight at me) after a day moving them around the room....friend came over to have a listen and said "im tripping"...as his system is thousands! of dollars over my system...well matched and well placed in your listening room...if you like the 11’s...19’s are guaranteed to please you...

Sweetwater does carry the active/scm 20 for 5k...fwiw

Two words: Go Active!
I have the XA30.8 with SCM19 v2 speakers. Wonderful.
Very different that hasn’t been discussed, is the active has better sharper active (-24db) xover slopes compared to the passives (12db-18db), which means the drivers are working in a better part of their frequency range, should equal less distortions. Not because of the muti amps, but because of the active xover. But then there's the sound of the active xovers to consider with all their electronics now in the signal path. 

Cheers George
@georgehifi Agreed.
digsmithd
"..but stepping up to the 19’s/sound anchor’s...wow...get the pro driver.."

pro driver? i do not see this driver on the 19
They are the same as scm 20 which is pro monitor...they should show pic on atc web site
just spoke to Dave at audio doctor,  very helpful and got valuable hints 
thank you digsmithd
you got it
I noticed a pair of ATCs at Goodwin's recently and the grills looked like chicken wire…not in a bad way...
Wolf garcia,

Yes the grills do look like like crap, the speakers are insanely great.

The whole concept with ATC is the money goes  into  the drivers, the cabinets are workman like, not about beauty of the wood work, the cabinets are designed to be rigid and purposeful. 

If you compare the size of the woofers magnet and the design of their drivers and their superb crossover, that is why they do what they do.

I would  take a pair of ATC 11 or 19 over a lot more expensive speakers, if you dare to compare them to many of the top audiophile brands the ATC just sound more life like, with startling dynamics.

A snare drum sounds like a real snare drum, same with a kick drum. The vocals have  a silky naturalness and the images are gigantic and very holographic. 

Troy
Audio Doctor
www.audiodoctor.com old website new one comming
877 428 2873
Grills don't look bad. And I listen with grills off anyway
With ATC you are buying excellent drivers and superb crossover,they do not care much about beuty design .This company has a very professional approach to their speakers.
PMC is comparable to ATC. 

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Definitely with grills off...doesnt seem like it would make that much difference....but i surely does.
ATC active is most important for their three ways. In a two way you could go either way (passive or active) with great results provided the passive amp is beefy (at least 150 watts on the SCM 20).
First, I think chicken wire speaker grills are fine as they do keep chickens from damaging the drivers, which can be a nightmare…so there’s that. Also, by utilizing active speakers of any kind (yeah, I recently read the ATC review in the Absolutist Sounders) you wind up with amps that just sit there and do nothing. Collect dust..sad…*sniff*...My beef with active stuff has been mostly related to active P.A. gear which obviates my ability to Field Repair things (although that has rarely happened), and I’m seriously changing my mind about that anyway since working with computerized sound systems allowing a "musician specific mix" for monitoring using powered boxes…each person on stage can get their own independent mix in any monitor...cool. Also, active home gear means you can’t mess around with various amps and tubes and wires…what’s the fun in that? Sure, the active ATCs may sound better, but really, deny my right to waste time and money on amp stuff for Better Sound? No way man...

Agreed shadorne...my modwright kwi 200 has 200 watts aside...really would like to kick it up to three hundred and see what kind o sh"tuff" happens...

Got to believe these thing's would just start to tighten there belt...they do love the power...

Agreed wolf...that would be limiting...sure they would sound great but...it would be nice to choose...

There could be a revolt among "stand alone" amp designers…imagine over half a dozen angry amp techs marching on Washington. 
Kind of like "amp designer's live's matter"....hmmm