Are there speakers after Stax?


I just got a chance to listen to my new Stax SRS-4040
Signature System II, and it blows away any speakers I have ever heard. It has its own dedicated, direct-drive tube amp (006t) and the full-range electrostatic drivers use a diaphram that is actually lighter than air.

The coherency and balance is outstanding, as is the transient response. But the delivery of fine, inner nuances and minute details is simply mind boggling. No speaker I have heard even comes close to what these baby's can deliver -- and this without highlighting any particular segment of the audible frequency spectrum. The bass is ultra quick and smooth, the midrange, beyond compare, and the high frequencies the most delicate and detailed that I have ever heard.

I may find it difficult to go back to speakers after hearing what this system can do. When you don't have to deal with room reflections, bass anomalies, and controlling vibrations/acoustic feedback, not only is there a true performance advantage, but the price/performance ratio is much better.

I know that some 'philes shun cans, but after my session last night, I feel these folks are missing the boat.

In a couple of months I'll be moving out of state and looking to buy new reference speakers for my new home. As fine and detailed as my InnerSound Mk-II speakers were, the Stax SRS-4040 system seems to be an order of magnitude better. I really don't think there are any speakers that can compete at this level, but I'm open to suggestions. Does anyone else feel this way???
plato

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I've been spending a lot of time with my Stax Omega II system of late (which uses the Stax 007t amp). I find this setup to be significantly better than the 4040 system which I have heard but not owned, especially in terms of it's uber amazing bass extension. The Omega II system is a big jump in cost for the 4040 and perhaps not worth it if you don't do a lot of headphone listening.

Another recommendation, which in some ways sounds even better than Stax, would be the AKG K-1000 earspeakers. These are, quite literally, electrostat speakers hanging from, but not touching, your ears! You want to talk about detail, oh my God! Because they are earspeakers and not really headphones, they throw a soundstage that cannot be touched by any "true" headphone. In fact, they connect to amps like regular speakers do (i.e., not through the headphone jack). Some people have actually added a subwoofer to their K-1000 setup!

The K-1000's retial for $700 but can sometimes be found in the used market for around $400 (although rarely). They're hard to drive so you would need either a good headphone amp (such as an Audio Valve RKV Mk II) or possibly an older receiver. There are many threads about the K-1000's at www.head-fi.org that discuss what amps/receivers do a good job driving them.

Suffice it to say the K-1000's are an experience unto themseves, and will open your eyes, drop your jaw, and make your head shake in disbelief in much the same way your Stax system has done.
Plato, you're absolutely right that the K-1000's use a dynamic design. I've just gone to the AKG website and it says as much - which is all the more reason to be amazed at their lightning quick transient response and detailed resolution - they sure look and sound like electrostats!

The K-1000's are incredibly inefficient and require at least a 10 watt amp to drive them (a lot in headamp terms), so this would jack up the investment cost for you - because unfortunately, Stax amps cannot be used on anything but Stax earspeakers. The K-1000's do best with a beefy tube amp such as the RKV (my choice) or a nOrh SE9 (the amp of choice for many happy head-fi'ers). Also, since they are so revealing, cheap sources need not apply - so I agree that you should ideally mate the K-1000's with an entire system that is in the same general class.

Other factors to consider are that 1) the K-1000's, to most people, are not terribly attractive. OK, they're really wierd looking creatures! and 2) they are totally open in design so the listener can easily be distracted by other noise in the room (and obviously you would distract others around you as well) - just in case that is a factor.

Oh, but do they ever sound so sweet - if I had to keep just one set of cans, these would be the ones!
T_bone, that's a good question, and unfortunately the answer is no. The RKV has 2 headphone jacks on the front and 2 sets of RCA inputs on the back, but no speaker terminals.

The stock cable for the K-1000's is terminated with a male 4 pin XLR connector in case you want to plug in directly to a balanced amp. There is also an extension cable that comes with the K-1000 package that has a female 4 pin XLR on one end and 4 bare wires on the other end for direct hook ups to speaker terminals. This is obviously not the best option, plus the stock AKG extension cable is a real cheapo (relative to the marvelous headphones). This is why most people will either modify or replace the stock cables.

There is a DIY guy over at head-fi who has made a very nice and afforadable cable for a couple of us. It's better looking, better performing and lower priced than the Equinox replacement cables, IMO. Check this thread out:

http://www4.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31464&highlight=k1000

BTW, you can also buy an Audio Valve "Impedanzer" to go with the RKV, which does have speaker terminals, but the Impadanzer would not be used for low impdedance headphones such as the K-1000's, so that doesn't really help either. The Impedanzer is a great addition to the RKV because it allows you to use the amp to match impedence levels of any set of headphones (it does wonders for the Sennheiser, Grado, and Audio Technica lines).

Of course all of this drives up the cost of your K-1000 setup. Here is a link to Meier Audio's website since they sell both the RKV and the K-1000's. Dr. Jan Meier is a great guy to deal with if you're thinking about putting together a multiple item order.

http://home.t-online.de/home/meier-audio/