Still too new?
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Hey, Sean34. I think your right in that the CDS27 is still too new. So there is not much info on it and many of the other new products Arcam has introduced over the past year.
I hope to get either the CDS27 or the UDP411 from Arcam. The CDS27 uses a different DAC chip than the CD17. The CDS27 uses the same higher end Burr-Brown 1794 chip as the Arcam UDP411 universal player.
Sorry, I can't compare the CD17 to the CDS27. I do know that I've enjoyed the Arcam rDAC and the FMJ A19 amp that I have been using for the past year that I plan on staying with Arcam when I get a new disc player.
While the Oppo 105 is a great performer, the fact is that I am not using it to its fullest capabilities..I rarely if ever watch blu ray. I am not using it as a pre-amp either. Nor am I using its multi channel capability. I am listening to CDs via two L/R interconnects. So, I am going to move it to the family room where it may get more use. I am focusing my main system more in the two channel direction. An important point is that I have read time and time again, that the type D/A converter chip is not the sole determinate of the quality of sound produced by a CD player. Yes, Oppo is using the Saber 9018. But it does not mean its sound is better than another CD player using some other chip. Moreover, I would think at this point in its availability, that most manufactures of CD players would have converted over to the Saber chip. But they haven't. Marantz uses a different chips for example. That kinda tells me that there is more to a CD players sound than the chip it uses. In any event, Arcam has been making great audio equipment to include CD players for a long long time. I like what they have done to the CDS-27 vs previous models. If it is a step back from the Oppo 105, then I will return it and put my $1,500 into something else. I do like the fact that the CDS-27 plays SACDs as I have growing collection. I looked at Emotiva's ERC-3 but that does not play SACDs. I have not copied any of my 700 CDs on to my PC yet. I will do that at somepoint.
I had one on lone from Audio Republic(uk). I also had the Apollo-r to compare.
I'm coming from an Arcam Alpha 7-upgraded to an 8 in 2002.
I've played both on my own set up:
Alpha 8 amp amp and power amp
Quad 11L speakers
Rumour speaker cable
Audio Quest Topaz inter's
Straight out of the box this player proved very detailed.It also made me listen to the music,I mean close my eyes and take in the great depth and imaging.It was however a little bright and some what harsh at the top end...this no doubt to it being new!
After a lot of play and burn-in the player really started to warm up. Rich and wonderful.
Playing Sarah McLachlans afterglow was a real pleasure.I got a sense of the great production and sound staging of this album...I'd never heard before.
Vocals are simply fantastic..as for the pace/timing. Bang on!
The player did struggle a bit with AC/DC. Back in Black sounding a little harsh in the mids. I put this down to the unit being not quite burnt in..sadly I took it back before it was really at it's best.
In all a terrific player with loads of capabilities.
Would I buy one. Yes
How did the Rega Apollo-r compare.
Firstly the Rega was well used and burnt in.
It was Richer than the Arcam but not as detailed. It had a more powerful bass sound and perhaps to some a more exciting listen.
Swapping them out I felt the Arcam was the better player as it was more involving to listen to.
The Rega was better with harder music. Hard Rock/Metal etc.
It simply pumped out Metallica the way you want to hear it-loud and proud. The Arcam unit lost the bands aggression a bit and while I could hear more detail in ,Mama Said', it did seem a bit lost.
However, Arcam have always been very neutral in their reproduction. You could say the cds27 showed up some production failings of the music.
I suspect the Rega with the Dac would be better and more rounded than the 27. This though costing another £300. Is it worth it..ummm not sure.
I'd go for the Arcam and will do when I have the funds!