ARC LS 25 Mk 11 Bypass


I'd like to get better "2 channel" performance out of my HT system (Bel Canto Evo 6 amp and PrePro processor, Theta CD transport). When I was at my local stereo store the salesperson recommended that I simply purchase the LS 25 Mk II. He told me that it has a "bypass" feature that will allow me to use the LS for 2 channel music and the PrePro for HT and multichannel applications...without having to move cords everytime I want to move between music and HT. I've tried to find literature on line that would explain how the wiring would work, but I've been unsuccessful. Has anyone out there done this with the LS 25 or some other preamp? If so, did you find the 2 channel sound to be substantially better than simply running it through the processor?
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I did this exact application with a ARCLS25MK2 about 3 years ago. I used a Theta Casablanca home theater processor, and fed the left front channel and the right front channel outputs (via XLR cables) from the CB into the "By-Pass" inputs of the LS25MK2. I then, obviuosly, connected my CD player direct to the ARC preamp, and from the LS25 out to my monoblock amps, and finally to 2 front speakers. On the remote for the LS25, there is a button that i recall read "Pass Through", as in to pass an incomming signal (from your HT Processor) through and out the preamp. You hit that button and it switches inputs on the back of the pramap to the Home Theater By Pass Input and simply routes that input out the main outputs of the preamp with out touching its volume. You HT Processor still has complete control over volume.

If Music is your main concern, I am going to go out on a limb and make the statement that with out question, if you have a good cd player (high end DAC's), you will always get better sound running it through an analog 2ch preamp versus running it into ANY home theater processor, regardless of cost. I also really like the ARC LS25MK2, but there is 1 potentially big drawback if you really care about home theater. When running home theater through a 2 channel analog preamp, most preamps, including the ARC ls25mk2, will be processing to some minor degree the signal and thus degrade it. With the ARC LS25, home theater front right and left DID sound worse running throught the ARC. Not horrible, but just not as good as running from the processor directly to the amps. I easily lived with it because my only critical concern was 2 channel, but you can easily hear the difference between running the processor direct vs. running it throught the LS25MK2. On the other hand, my 2 channel setup sounded marvelous comming off the LS25.

FWIW, 12 months ago i replaced the ARC with a VTL7.5, and ran it in the same hometheater by pass mode. With the VTL, I could not distinguish a difference in home theater. I guess for 13K, it had better darn work well!!!!!
“Absolute nonsense ...it is a pass through and no degradation of the signal.”

Maybe you are the One who is confused. When you say it’s a pass through, are you implying it just passively switches wires because that is not the case. The preamp is accepting the analog signal just like it would from any other source and then setting its volume level at unity gain, so as not to change the output level of the incoming signal.

Does your home theater bypass work when your REF3 is turned off? I don’t think so, and I know it does not work with the LS25MK2 turned off (we are talking about the LS25MK2 here aren’t we). If the 2ch preamp has to be turned on, then it is NOT just passively switching wires, it is actively doing "something", and I am telling you for a fact, that with the LS25MK2 in home theater bypass mode, it does change the sound from your ht processor and not in a positive way. I would assume the REF3 would be on the same level as a VTL7.5, and the change in sound through those units would be (is) extremely minimal, but this is not the case with the LS25MK2. The lowering in sound quality (degrading) was easily noticeable.