A friend of mine had the phantoms and they sounded great in his tiny grad school apartment. I no longer remember the character of the sound but I remember liking it at the time.
I remember them, but only through a Stereophile review of what I guess were the Phantoms. Same with the Robertson amp you referred to in a prior thread. Those were the days of the Stu Hegemanns (he was from where I live, by the way, though I don't think I ever met him) making speakers in their garages. Now such a designer would have a hard time getting his designs reviewed by the 'Phile, I'd imagine.
Ain't that the truth. I think they(TAS) missed the boat somewhat.If I recall they hooked them up to some big bad SS amp(94db with 1 watt, come on who needs 200 watts per channel!)and muttered something about "Black Sabbath". Du Du, Du Du, oy oy oy oy, du du de de di de du da, I'm going off the rails on a crazy train, didly , didly ,didly ,didly! (Ya like the guitar transcription part?)Seriously these things work wonders with a 50 watt tube amp, why the hell didn't they use a more appropriate amp, guess they didn't cost enough for them.
I sold the Kindel line in Michigan through my store, Great Lakes Audio, for a couple of years. They were quite good for the money. The large line source model was dynamic, coherent but a little rolled off in the top. Overall, a good speaker line that wasn't marketed well enough to take on the big boys.
jstromp, what else are you using with your Kindels? My friends, that I sold him still sound fantastic. What would you repalce them with? Something smaller? That's the only reason I sold mine. At the time I bought them I had a great room for them, but after moving and putting them in a smallish room it was time to set them free to roam the wide open spaces.
Hasenfeffer, I recently acquired a pair of Phantoms and am in the process of restoring them. This pair was not cared for all that lovingly and to top it off got a bit roughed up in shipping. When I am done I will take a few pics and post them in my Virtual system.
Anyone know of where I could get my hands on some of the Polydax HD13B25J/2CP12 5" woofers? I would like to replace all four of them. I have done some repairs to all four of mine. One of them, even though it seems to work well has a more serious issue. Finding a driver that drops in to replace these isn't available to the best of my knowledge. I am still researching the possibilities. It may require a bit of a x-over reworking. I would hate to screw up what they do so well.
As an almost-owner I recently had a craving to learn more about them.
The shop at which I put them on lay away (20 yrs ago!) went bankrupt or something and the owner skipped town with almost all of the store's inventory, but he did leave behind a pair of vandersteen 1's. The sherrif let me take those for the balance of the purchase price. Happy ending!
I too, as Two Jeffreys Audio, sold Kindel speakers in the '80s. The smaller ones were great values but used not-good tweeters. I bought a pair of PLS-As in 1987 and still have them. I redid the crossovers years ago with better parts and am about to do it again, with even-better parts, biwired, and with hardwired cable.
Might that pair that was for sale be be in the western US?
Any PLS-A owner looking for a pair of heavy-duty steel stands for theirs, almost free? The PLS-As I bought from jstromp were so equipped, and I do NOT need them. E-mail me at firstname.lastname@example.org for pics if you're interested. The price will be $10 for the trouble of packing them plus actual-cost shipping.
I bought a pair of Phantoms last year; just like the ones I had some years ago and sold to a friend. I was hoping to be able to have another pair and soon a pair appeared for sale locally and I snatched them up. I'm very happy listening to them after years of using more exotic speakers. This is a fine speaker system with good bass extension, although they will not play terrifically loud. They are all one could ask for in a smaller room or apartment. Where is Bil Kindel now, I wonder?
I recently took my pair of PLS-A speakers out of the back office, where they were being used as computer monitors (!). I had exiled them because they are so freakin' huge. But I was getting a bit weary of the cold but accurate sound of my Martin Logans, and rearranged the living room to accommodate the PLS-A behemoths. The moment I fired them up I was reminded why I loved this pair so much. The sound is smooth, accurate, with a beautiful sound stage and a spacious, warm sound. The speakers have a definite sound personality, which may not appeal to a lot of listeners, but which I find compliments the kind of music I listen to most: organ, choral, symphonic, chamber and opera. I'm not a tech guy, and understand none of the tech talk, but I think I will get better results from these if I bi-amp them. I'll need to use a 5.1 AV amp since they also function as the from speakers for my home theatre, so I'm looking at the Onkyo 805 7.1 which has a bi-amp option and plenty of power. Any thoughts or help would be appreciated. Finally, if you run across a pair of these beauties and have the space and floor trusses to make them work, they have been great friends to me and I would recommend them.