Anyone heard the Alsyvox Botticelli planar speakers?

Over at WBF, there is considerable disbelief that the new Alsyvox’s can compete with their favorite old fashioned horn based stuff. Personally, I think a lot of those folks are too closed minded to ever hear these new speakers, never mind what they can do; but to me, given the rave reviews that they have received so far, an audition should be on anyone’s short list -if they are seriously shopping in these price categories.

@goose   Could it be the huge room that the Bott's were being demo'ed in? I heard that this room had minimal acoustic treatment and was a very tough room. Another thought, the electronics? I personally would NOT discount these speakers based on a demo that you heard at a show...and in the particular room that you heard them in. 

@rhapsody Looking at that room, you are asking a lot of any speaker to sound exemplary while dealing with the various issues that a room of those dimensions elicits. If the Alsyvox had any issues, I would think they could be laid at the feet of the room...and its acoustics, or lack thereof. Personally, I wouldn’t want to demo a pair of speakers in a room of that size and dimension....whether it be a horn, a dynamic, or a Planar.
Same thing as I witnessed a few years ago, when Magico were demoing their then as new S7’s, in a room that doubled as a full size ballroom! Regardless of how one likes or dislikes the speakers from Magico...the room killed the speaker in that particular demo. Maybe next time, a smaller...more manageable room at RMAF?

@rhapsody What I am trying to point out is the fact that if a speaker demo has people point out "issues" and that demo is done in a room that is "enormous"; then most times a lot of those very same "issues" can be attributed to the room. Since there has been some ’noise’ that the speakers in this room were ’slightly’ less able in the very high frequencies ( " they were tipped up") and the bass was heard to be "occasionally wondering"...this would certainly point to a room interaction.

Just like it can be difficult to dial in a speaker into too small a room, the same can be said for too large a room. Both offer their challenges. Now whether you (or other folk who you link to) actually heard the issue with this particular room at RMAF is another discussion. But my money is on those who have commented that the room
( ballroom??) was NOT ideal.

@faxer LOL, On every forum where the Alsyvox speaker is mentioned, you or another dealer post how great the GT speakers are. Somebody should organize a shoot-out between the two brands to actually determine whether you have a claim to naysay the Alsyvox’s. Albeit, the GT’s are a LOT less $$, but are they in the same league as the A’s???
Personally, if you have to use subs ( servo or otherwise) to augment your speaker, I believe you would be at a severe disadvantage from the gitgo! Getting the blend to be invisible with a sub/planar panel set up is almost impossible, IME. Nonetheless, a shoot-out would be instructive.

@gnjtack Are you so sure that your interests are being represented here, on this particular thread? I would have thought that this is not the case! By your dealer’s interjection into this thread, I would state that the first place you might want to look...is at your dealer.

@gnjtack You make some good points. BUT like most folks who post on forums, I think you also jump to conclusions and read into posts things that may NOT necessarily be there! For example, i don’t believe that I stated anywhere that just because a product is priced higher it automatically means that it is better. I personally believe that price has absolutely NOTHING to do with performance.
Now, lets discuss why it is one of your dealers feels the need to post on this Alsyvox thread. ( which as i mentioned in my post, has occurred with some of your dealers on other forums as well. BTW, it is I who has been banned from WBF...they don’t like alternate opinions over there, LOL!!) ). You offer a planar speaker that is, I suppose in your mind ( and maybe in reality too...that the jury is out on), a competitor to the aforementioned Alsyvox brand. After all they are both planar designs. Alternatively, your speaker is a competitor to the Alsyvox speaker. Now, the question becomes how much of a competitor are you to each other? I seriously doubt that either of you impacts the sales of the other!!! You stated that GTAW sells a fraction of what Alsyvox does. I would suggest that this is probably incorrect, why...because neither brand has much, or any, traction here in the USA...and I very highly doubt that either brand has much more traction anywhere else either!

As to my points about matching up a sub with a planar panel, you are correct, I have NOT heard your speaker design, and as such it is possible that I would NOT hear the blend...which would be a great thing. Is it likely that this is the case, unfortunately not, as I have heard the blend on absolutely 100% of all speakers that employ a planar design and a dynamic design subwoofer...and we are talking of quite a few combos like this over the many years.

Like i pointed out, if a shoot out could be arranged, this would be a very informative thing, and would certainly be of interest to hobbyists like myself. Would it seal the deal that one design and speaker is ALWAYS going to sound better than the other, no; but it would certainly be interesting.

Here’s a suggestion...since you want to increase your visibility and ’educate’ a’philes as to your product ( a worthy cause, please don’t get me wrong!). How about setting up some dealer shoot outs between your product and the many Maggie’s that are easy to a) acquire and b) located all over the country. Maybe even start at the top, your product vs. the similarly priced Maggie 30.7. Just a thought, LOL.

@rhapsody Well to be perfectly fair, I think that the trolling of these threads seems to be just as prevalent here as at WBF. WBF, IME, has some of the least fair mods in the biz, and some of the most lenient when it comes to ad hominem attacks! I was attacked over there when I started my thread on the Alysvox speaker by all of the blindly besotted horn lovers...and no one did anything there about it at all! When I complained to the forum owner, he took it the wrong way and didn’t like the fact that I was asking for moderation. Either that, or he couldn’t risk upsetting his many horn lovers, and so I was banned, lol.
At least here, the forum mods seem to be far more logical and reasonable in their assessments. IMHO.