They are a well kept secret. I have heard them several times(prototype) and they are probably the best amps Quicksilver has ever made.
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Boa2, Great to hear your find with these amps. I felt the same when taking home a Manley Stingray and hearing the musicality, texture, and palpability I never heard in any other system I have owned, including some pricey seperates. Something about running Triode of about 25-50W/Ch. tubes that sounds so right. Enjoy!!
Honestly, the shortcomings of our Klipsch La Scala speakers are vastly 'corrected' by these amps. They fill the room with a layered, natural sound that is extraordinary. Even the bass is much tighter and has a thickness to it that I've never heard before, which is saying a lot for the La Scala's.
Thanks for the comments. Interesting that you have heard them, Tubeking. And Kehut, enjoy that Stingray. That is quite an amp!
I have owned them for a while, but they weren't what I was looking for. I thought that the midrange, upper-midrange was a bit on the aggressive side. Not as smooth and sweet as I had hoped for. I listened to them with Proac 2.5's and Quad 988's, using Cary 308 and Arcam CD23 CDP's. Also heard them in several other systems.
For the Quads, I'm using a pair of Cary SLM70's modified to run in triode. Each use 4 EL34's. They seem to convey both the subleties and delicies of a recording while also providing liquid midrange (in what I'd call a good way). The system is not complete, but bass will be handled thru an external Xover to subs and SS amps.
I also have a pair of EAR 509ii's - but I currently like the Cary's more. The EAR's are 20+ years old though, and could probably use a checkup.
WOW maybe I have heard the Quicksilver TRIODES. I'm not sure...But what do I know about stereo systems anyway???
Maybe I will post pics of my system...but I am afraid that you will ALL laugh at what I have or what I theorize???
I am scared...will you all laugh???
Co-Author Paul Wilbur Klipsch: The Life...The Legend.
The ONLY BIOGRAPHY of PWK.
Gosh...I am somwhat of a dummy but maybe i can help the less informed....
If any of you want the secret to the finest sound in the world or want pics of the worlds greatest audio system, let me know I think I can possibly help...but then maybe not???
Co-Author Paul Wilbur Klipsch:The Life..The Legend.
The ONLY BIOGRAPHY of PWK
Just humor me...i am not to smart.
Cummon you guys...get serious...don't you want to see pics of my system???
Actually i am thinking about MAYBE flying some select people back east to PA and have them audition my room...the most incredible room in the world...Nothing even close my friends not even close... The secret is all SILVER my friends all silver the highest grade siler from Holland and then the configuration is next to reduce all constrictive resistance that is it my friends that is the secrect but the most important thing is making the marriage between equipment and that is where i come in...I am the AUDIO god..GUYS???????? Just ask...well neve mind he knows who I'm talking about????
No seriously here it goes...
Anyone want the answers to the Audio Kingdom???
Anyone want real answers to the following...
45 Push Pull
2A3 Push Pull
300B Push Pull
6C33C PUSH PULL
Rewiring the Klipsch with the highest grade silver internally...THE ONLY MOD YOU SHOULD MAKE
Replacing the worn out AA network with the BOB Critas identical AA network which includes the oil filled caps.
How about Tube Traps
How about room lens..better to stuff with fiberglass or fiberfill.
The best surfact to put the equipment on granite VS. wood.
What kind of granite what kind of wood.
How many strands of SILVER.
What tubes to use in your amps...the brand ...the year NOS VS. NEW STOCK.
Length of cable ...
Man lots of questions???
All of which I have the answer to because I am the AUDIO god.
What is the greatest sounding CD player of all time...best D/A....Best IC's to go with different players...Best Digital Cable on the market....
Best digital cable on the market may suprise you totally.
This is a no brainer...and I do have the answer to that one as I have heard zillions of them and spent a great deal of time evaluating the various brands on different D/A's
What 300B tube will give you the best control down in the basement???
Is that an issue with the 300B's
Is flabby bass an issue????
Maybe maybe not????
Will the brand of tube control that loose sensation if there really is a loose sensation.
Or is loose bass a fantasy created in the minds of audio mag writers who probably never heard one anyway???
Maybe or maybe not I have the answer.
WOW one more question...Does one ever need a sub woofer with a Belle LaScala or K-Horn???
Well if you need one you are doing something wrong!!!!
The biggest problem is theat the sub will never respond fast enough to keep up with the lighting fast mids and highs of a horn loaded loudspeaker. Why do you think the Advantgarde went to horn loaded subs...because the regular subs they use are way behind the music produced by the mids and tweets.
It is like listening to 2 differet speakers in one room TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!
I have owned a pair of Quicksilver Triodes for about a year now and am very impressed. Lots of punch, lots of inner detail, but I agree with Peter S, they are a bit on the bright side right out of the box. YOU MUST REPLACE THE FACTORY TUBES WITH VINTAGE MULLARDS!!! I replaced the 6C33Cs with NOS early '70s Svetlanas and noticed a small difference, but the huge change was in changing the single 12AX7 and 12BH7 to the '60s Mullards (the 12AX7 especially). The improvement was dramatic. Still has the inner detail, still has the clean & extended midrange & detailed treble, but with more bass punch, more of a rich warm sound, no more brightness. I have concluded that the tubes installed at the factory were a cost consideration and an availability consideration; not a sonic one. This tube swap costs less than $100 and makes these amps really sing; I have heard nothing in the $15,000 and under range that compare. By the way, if you are using a Quicksilver preamp, it also also will benefit incredibly from vintage Mullards (warmer sound) or vintage Telefunkens (more forward sound).
ps. Mike Sanders only made 50 pairs of the Triodes so hang onto those sweethearts!