Anyone been in contact with Jade Audio recently?



Just wondering if anyone's been in touch with JD from Jade Audio recently? I got a pair of Vermeil Gold interconnects from him a while back, and while I think they are incredible, I wanted to discuss replacing their Eichmann Copper Bullets with Furutech Gold plugs... I also want to buy another interconnect for a center channel! I tried emailing him a couple times, but didn't get a response. And I just called the phone number on his website, which actually turned out to be his home phone... (I didn't want to bother his family by leaving a message on the answering machine!) I know he's been battling a serious heart ailment, so I truly hope he's okay! If anyone can give me tips on getting in touch with him, I'd appreciate it!

Tomer
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Tomer - Your experience with the GGs vs. Jade cables mirror the cable shootout that I did last year. Even after 150+ hours on the GG Revs, it was as flat and lifeless compared to the Jade as it was with zero hours.
Thanks Darealjaydee ... We all like what we like. But we also quickly learn how something we liked so much before can be seriously displaced by something else. If someone has the GG Rev cables and they work for them, that is fine. I used to feel the same way about NBS Statement cables used throughout my system until I heard Purist Dominus and Kubala-Sosna Emotion. Both of those cables were a wake-up call for me to realize no matter how much I liked the sound of my system with the NBS, these other cables brought on a significant increase in system refinement. Going back to the NBS became impossible.

Until we experience such a comparative evaluation, we have no relative value on what we are currently using. And even then, if the user claims how much smoother or extended the tonality has become, that I have no argument with. But that was not where the GG vs. Jade differences existed.

As for what I listen for with a cable, it's all about the portrayal of space, retainment of harmonic structures and decays. Nearly all "high-end" systems I have heard that claim to have these qualities have failed miserably. But for a system where this is a strength, the Jade Hybrid outperforms this GG by quite a stretch. It was the case in my system and that of another where the GG Rev and Jade Hybrid were put through a direct shootout.

I was told by the GG manufacturer that 150 hours would show a significant change....and it did not....at least not in what I was listening for. And I reported my findings to the manufacturer at 0, 75 and 150 hours vs. the Jade Hybrid. He was surprised as was I after all the praise I had read about these cables. I have reported elsewhere on A'gon that the Revs worked mighty fine in terms tonal coherency, clarity and dynamics....but that wasn't good enough. Ultimately, I returned the Revs.

Only later was it reported that the Rev's needed 300 hours surface. But again, none the claims of magic at 150 hours ever came through for me. Maybe they did improve, but relative to the Jade Hybrid, it was a moot issue.

As for the many hours needed, this can only be verified through a logical process. Someone would need to buy two pairs, compare them both at zero hours to confirm no sonic differences. One pair would be burned in for 300 hours and the comparison would be done again between the two. If the burned in cable at 300 hours significantly outperformed the unused cable, then I might believe such a claim. But I doubt anybody has gone through this process. And if not, the claimed changes with the cable's burn-in time are most likely more to do with the user being acclimated to the sonic signature of the cable.

And unless someone puts forth the effort to directly compare the GG cables to others such as the Jade, Stealth, and Purist, in the same system, where 3D portrayal is a strength, rather than claim how phenomenal the GG cables are over eveything else, then that user has no idea what they are missing.
I have not thought of it like Jmcgrogran2. I simply find it hard to believe that cable differences can be quantified between zero hours and X hours.

In the case of listening to a cold tube component and then playing that same recording 30-60 minutes later, it is very clear how some of the edge is smoothed over as the tubes and other parts have stabilized. Is this the kind of change people talk about when they say cables need burn in? But even cold, it is clear as to the overall sonic signature of tube electronics component. Are people claiming this is not the case with cables? .... you can not judge them at all until a minimum number of hours? It all sounds kinda silly to me. Now matter how long you rub a copper penny, it does not suddenly become a gold nugget.