Anybody watch the Grammys tonight?


I was too busy listening to MUSIC on my analogue rig.  Sigh.  What am I missing?
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Hi Orpheus10,
I believe that Tom Perez, Keith Ellison,  Elizabeth Warren and Maxine Waters would take issue with your assessment. 
Charles 
"huntin and fishin" more programmed stereotypes?
Orpheus10, conversely you could be accused of tired and worn liberal/leftist cliches with a myopic view of those with different perspectives. It cuts in both directions.
Charles
No cultural behavior is immune from criticism based on  observational behavior or customs particularly if such behavior is detrimental to some of its members. I based this on my own urban experiences (Detroit and Chicago) circa 1960s-1970s. I cannot speak for the childhood/youth experiences of others here. Only my first hand exposure. Schubert I suspect our backgrounds are probably quite different and no doubt informs our respective viewpoints. No problem. 
Charles 
Frogman, 
As you surely know we are in the era of identity politics so white folks (particularly men) are fair game and attacks toward them are encouraged.  As a "person of color" there's undeniable  irony  that I come to their defense but I detest dishonest and destructive ideological BS. 

The idea that if you are white you can't be critical of the behavior or actions of people of color is nonsense. People can most certainly be judged on both their words and actions. I don't have any reservations about criticizing white people when I believe that it's appropriate,  the converse should be equally acceptable. 

Frogman I share the same disappointment regarding the (appalling) lack of knowledge, respect and appreciation for the many outstanding genuine artists of color who's legacy is virtually forgotten by the majority of their descendants. 
Charles 
At one point in my life I listened regularly  to rap and hip hop but my tastes have changed (my wife still likes some hip hop occasionally). I find jazz exponentially more fulfilling and substantive,  just superior music but I admit this is just my personal opinion.  I have zero objection to what other music lovers enjoy,  taste is taste.  

It seems clear to me however that artists being celebrated for their musical/professional achievements is an entirely different matter than exploiting the setting/platform for tiresome political dogma.
Charles 
Rpeluso,
I am neither old nor white. Resorting to silly stereotypes reveals more regarding you than those you chose to castigate. Okay so as you state  you're "old and white" does this grant you the self righteousness to put down others who express a perspective different from your own. Some of us were turned off by the political rhetoric and said so. If you weren't that is also fine as it's a matter of choice.
Charles 
Guswatte,
I also feel the "talentless streetwalker" comment was unwarranted as I don’t believe personal attacks are justified (or accurate).

Musical taste is all across the proverbial map as most of us posting here can certainly attest to.

My primary criticism as Frogman and many others have noted is the overwhelmingly insipid one sided political viewpoint. It comes across as embarrassingly shrill and shallow.

Celebrate the music but enough of the political dogma.
Charles
Frogman,
Well said and I share your sentiments. Repetitive and stale political pablum. I didn’t watch and I wonder what the ratings were for this telecast. My gut feeling is that they are probably markedly diminished. I think at this juncture quite a few people have just tuned out.
Charlesjust