the 3f is super detailed, but I felt would get bright listening at louder volumes. The 3f in my opinion needs a subwoofer for sure. It's the more accurate speaker in terms of detail, air etc.
The reference is what it is. It lacks a little detail, but can pound all day, will work with less expensive electronics really well (even a receiver) as it's not going to ever be too bright and doesn't needs gobs of power as the subs are powered.
I would want a very detailed DAC and something like a very nice class A amp to drive the top of the reference if I owned them.
When I compared the DynAudio Contour 60's to the reference, I prefered the Dyn's - plenty of bass also, but tighter and more defined. More detail on the top end, but not bright.
That said, the reference is a rare speaker you could do Home Theater with and probably be just fine without subs.
The 3f lacks low end oomph for sure. Two very, very different speakers.
The reference is what it is. It lacks a little detail, but can pound all day, will work with less expensive electronics really well (even a receiver) as it's not going to ever be too bright and doesn't needs gobs of power as the subs are powered.
I would want a very detailed DAC and something like a very nice class A amp to drive the top of the reference if I owned them.
When I compared the DynAudio Contour 60's to the reference, I prefered the Dyn's - plenty of bass also, but tighter and more defined. More detail on the top end, but not bright.
That said, the reference is a rare speaker you could do Home Theater with and probably be just fine without subs.
The 3f lacks low end oomph for sure. Two very, very different speakers.