any fans of early industrial?

Einstruzende Neubauten is excellent, even now. For people interested, go to www.neubauten.org, their web site. Some neat stuff there. And they also did a special recording for "supporters," those who donated some $$ (all of $35 Paypal for me).

Thanks for all the info on the other groups, I'll check out Wumpscut for sure.

And a slightly humurous story: my sister-in-law was looking for something to get me for the holidays some eyars back. I told her I wanted Throbbing Gristle's Greatest Hits. Now, this 40-something woman looks at me, incredulously, and says "Throb...what ?" I said, "Throbbing Gristle -- think pulsating steak fat !" :-)

BTW, a lot of industrial music makes great speaker break-in material !!!! EN's "Strategies Against Architecture" disk 1 is amongst my favorites to burn in something new.

OK, enough.

Todd.

Can ? Wow, haven't heard that one in a while. Yeah, maybe they could be labelled as the parents of Industrial. But I think a lot of the experimental Moog stuff from the 60's, and even the old weird sound effects experimentalists going back to the 20's (?!) can be labelled as such.

I think Industrial as a concept for music, not just a sound, was more in the late 70's, though.....

And Joy Division ? Industrial ? Uhhhhmmmm. Nuh-uh. I loved them, they were my fave band until I really got into the Chameleons UK (hence my A'gon nym), but I would never classify them as Industrial. Always worth mentioning though ! So thanks for that !

Ahhh, Ralph Records !! Loved them and the mascot...and also their slogan ("Buy or Die"). Some neat stuff by the Residents, Snakefinger, Renaldo and the Loaf, etc etc.

Thanks for reviving a few "memories" :-)