Any cable delivers more bass than Cardas Golden Reference?


Hi-

Im using Golden Reference in my System(Merlin VSM Speakers), and the bass is natively stronger with the Gold Ref than any other cable i had the chance of using.

This is a good thing in the case of my system as the speakers are a little lean for my taste, so the cable, whether it adds unnatural bass or being very natural, is very good or me.

I want to go deeper since i have to buy a longer pair(from 1m now to 2m), because distances between amp and speakers recently changed here.

So before i buy id like to know if there is even more "bassey" cable out there.

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Here's what I used for 23 years (92 - 2015) with my KLH Nines: Mogami 2477 Blue Neglex 12 guage OFC coax. My friend (who owned an audio store in CT) had a 40 - ft piece as a sample. He sold it to me for $40. I cut it in half, stripped the ends and hooked it up to the Nines. SQ was exemplary - never felt the urge to change! Bass response with these electrostats (and a capable amp) was able to shake the floor!
How about some original Western Electric 16 gauge cotton-covered stranded wire? Too retro for you fellows enamored by today's fancy cables?
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By the way, I AM akowledging the fact that it may not that the Bass is "warmer" in the GR’s, but perhaps the higher and high mids are a bit tamed, which contribute to the illusion of warmer bass, but to me sound is an illusion altogether, so i dont mind that. Im just enjoying this particular tonal balance.

As an example from my music Mixing career, i can only tell that the most pleasant things to the ear are the most wrongest and most distorted,.. so to me, color is not a bad word. i just need to like that color...
So much for Pure...

At the end one can not talk too long about a single component. Its like a stew. Its the sum of all parts and their interrelations.

In some dishes that are savory and spicy hot, there is a ton of sugar. If you isolate the sugar you puke from sweetness, but in the stew the balance is just perfect and no sign of sweetness.
I use analysis plus a big Silver oval and it really made a huge difference in bass response without losing anything in the mids or highs.
Two reasonably priced speaker cables I've had in the past with really good bass were Harmonic Technology and Analysis Plus.
I had Focal 936 driven by a variety of amps and they always seemed starved for bass and midbass.  Then I put in a pair of Cardas Golf Refs and the magic happened.  The speakers sounded great.
I still use Cardas Gold Refs and love them.
Unexpectedly a pair of Chinese tubed Monoblocs- Consonance Cyber 800s made them sound even better as did the addition of a simple 2 6SN7 pre amp the AE-3.  However the Cardas were certainly a critical part of the great sound I got.Could they be bassier ?  I don't know but they took a cold analytic system to a much warmer one .  That could be low midrange and upper bass as well as bass.
I wonder about the flip side of the question -- what cable does not carry high frequencies so well?  So when you turn up the volume to hear the highs, the bass gets louder.
Which electrical characteristics of cables tend to inhibit the highs?
Since Cabledyne is out of business, try and source a manufacturer who employs 10GA, high purity, single solid core speaker cables, for a start as they all don't sound equal. It's a shame they're out of business.

The base I get from mine is low, tight, detailed, and has gobs of tone and timbre with the right recording. And though this is a bit off topic, try out the High Fidelity MC-0.5. It's a stand alone power conditioner that's completely passive and rids your AC of those nasties that limit what your system is capable of.

When I inserted them into my outlets, not only did it slay any and all aspects of digital glare, which permeates the upper mids and highs, the base went even lower and tighter as well. Apparently the noise on the AC affected the lows as much as everything else.

All the best,
Nonoise 
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First i want to truly appreciate the time and effort you all put in here to help me. I do appreciate it so very much!

Now to the thing itself-
Being a veteran musician/producer and engineer for decades, im aware of all the basic stuff. Acoustics, Phase polarity, etc etc etc.

In this thread, in particular, im talking about the frequency curve being reproduced by a particular wire i grew to like in my system, with all it’s limitations.

I concluded that this wire HAS a frequency Curve of its own and in comparison to other Wire, they DO NOT sound the same, and it ain’t no snake oil.
They absolutely deliver a different overall frequency curve, Not getting into that debate at this point at all.

I find that the Cardas Golden Reference is complimenting my system in it’s given enviournment and don’t want to open further "cans of worms"... Not now anyway, i have also a life to live which is fairly short for my taste...;)

So basically here is the deal: I sold my mono blocks and bought a Stereo power, so now my 1 meter Cables are too short to get to the center power unit, so i need 2 meter cables.

The Cardas GR that i like are very pricey, especially at 2meters, so im selling my 1 meter and going to buy a replacement.

All i wanted to know is what other Cable might give me same characteristics for a lower price so i dont have to sell my pants for a piece of wire.

Thanks!
Dumbeat

did you try toggling between left and right after switching the cable around.
its more likely the speakers are not matched.
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Cable is not your problem. I assume you have not reversed r  and l channels anywhere. Base is very sensitive to speaker position   Never heard of that big s problem with base with any!! cable 
@drumbeat.    I am not doubting what you heard but you should switch the cables on the left and right speakers and try the A/B test again.  Very few listening rooms are totally symmetrical.  I can hear slight differences in bass response between my left and right speakers (using the same cables).   

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I tried repositioning the speakers but the way my room is set up I will have to live with it.   But they sound great together and I don't notice anything.
Moon Audio Black Dragon cables might be a fit for you. I use two meter runs from PS Audio M700 monoblocks to Focal Electra 1028Be speakers. The Black Dragons are warm without losing any detail. Drew at Moon Audio will custom make just about anything you want. Cheers.

dumbeat, from your description of your A/B test...if accurate...then one or both cables were very, very poorly designed.  Why not just get a normal, well constructed cable?
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Believe it or not, maroon gave the most consistent results.

I know many are claiming its snake oil, but today ive placed both speakers side by side, sent identical mono signal to both sides, one with the GR and the other with a cheap generic cable, and toggled L and R to do the A/B test.
The difference was so loud that you had to be deaf not to hear it..

Maybe the "Guinea pigs"(your language) were actually deaf people...? was that option taken under consideration?
Looks like they were much more receptive to color...;-)
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what positioning efforts have you made with your speakers to increase the bass? or room treatments?
Purist Audio Dominus has the Best Bass (articulate,deep and prominent) of any cables that i have tried. 
Back in the 90's when I was doing my masters in Audio and Acoustic engineering at Solent University we spent many months doing blind trials with different types of interconnect leads. After thousands of comparisons with very little compelling data we accidentally stumbled upon a change that a massive 63% of our guinea pigs said increased the quality of the lower range frequencies. We had changed the colour of the speaker cabinets!
Believe it or not, maroon gave the most consistent results.