Anthem AVM 30 or Emotiva UMC-1


I currently own an Anthem AVM-30 which I use primarily for home theater. I have a separate two channel system. My issue is that I am tired of manually pushing the two separate 3-HDMI switches that I have for the 5 following pieces of equipment. (Sony Play Station 3, Oppo BDP-83SE, Verizon FIOS, Apple Mac Mini and D-Link Boxee). I heard that the Emotiva sells direct and was wondering if it is a myth that the $699 UMC-1 is equivalent to the $2999 AVM 30. Also, one of my primary reasons for switching is that I can do away with the two HDMI switch boxes and simply use the inputs on the UMC-1. Unfortunately, I will have to get new S/E cables or adapters instead of balanced cables. Am I missing anything important?
aaronmadler
Aaron

This thread will start a rather vigourous discussion amongst many members and it will probably get really dirty. You may not get an answer to your question. One A'gon member who has had good experiences with the UMC-1 is Robbob. Search for his ID and send him an e-mail. That may be the best way to get an answer to your query. Also too if you can maybe just take Emotiva up on their 30 day return policy that could be a way for you to see if the UMC-1 will work in your system and is bug free. Yeah it sucks that you have to pay for shipping back if you don't like it but if it works out you saved a bunch. If you need XLR adapters there is a member here, Ehaus, that sells quality adapters @ reasonable prices.

Good luck.
I would wait until a couple of good reviewers test it,and give their opinion.You have a nice unit now.I think they have remote switchers.
I find it ironic that one member said you may not get a honest answer so ask Rob who wouldnt say a bad thing about Emo if they killed his dog.
I am not going to stir up that tired arguement but just giving you a warning, a bias is a bias no matter what side it falls on.
Check the Emotiva forums for the CURRENT status on the UMC-1 and it's now repaired bugs. There are people here who lie like rugs. I have clearly pointed out negative aspects of Emotiva gear (which I own) and better/lesser gear (which I also own). For Example, I don't suggest using Emotiva for music only. But then I wouldn't reccomend Rotel, Parasound, Anthem, Outlaw, Bryston either. I'm in the tube camp for serious listening.

Don't let anyone sway you either way. Do research on the CURRENT unit and then make a decision for a test drive.

All I can say is that I wish I had all the money back wasted on those overpriced processors. And again, I'm suggesting you WAIT for the newer unit and NOT buy the UMC-1 if possible.

The resident trolls will attempt to skew this advice. Like I said: Do your own research on the unit's performance today.

Rob
Can't live with yourself if you don't get in the last word (and version of reality) can you....
Troll, Shill...........you just cant win
The resident trolls will attempt to skew this advice. Like I said: Do your own research on the unit's performance today.

Rob
Robbob (System | Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

Some people never learn.

12-29-10: James_lipski
Can't live with yourself if you don't get in the last word (and version of reality) can you....
James_lipski (Answers | This Thread)

Attention!!! Attention!!! Pot calling kettle black!!!

Both have made their points over and over. See the other threads on the UMC-1 and you can see this argument played out ad nauseum. Give it a rest boys.
"Attention!!! Attention!!! Pot calling kettle black!!!"

I understood the irony of my post. So I applaud you for being a master of the obvious. What I don't understand is why you feel you have to interject yourself into this? If you are above the fray, as you seem to imply you are, then why bother? I suppose you feel you are doing the audiogon community a service. Spare me your holier than thou diatribe and save the bad cop routine for another thread.
If it had been done only one time it would be ironic. When it gets into the double digits it becomes major league whining. Your point has been made. You must be the one feeling that you are doing the Audiogon community a service by saying the same thing over and over and continuing an argument that should have been finished long ago. People are smart enough to follow the links provided if they are interested. That is not good enough for you. There has been a whole lot of interjecting by you that has not furthered any of the threads at all after your point was made. Feel relieved that you have done your duty, you can stop now.

I read the threads of equipment I am interested in and may consider purchasing. It gets old reading the same old argument. So it is not holier than thou, it is an interested party that is tired of listening to your PAM (P*** and Moan).
I responded to points made by another poster. Again if you have an issue with it don't read it. If you feel that you have the authority to edit anything I say I would reconsider. What is always old is when an "enlightened" party enters into a discussion and feels they will "set things straight". I will interject anywhere I desire and anytime I feel the need, and if this irks you so what. Remember you are just another member, nothing more and nothing less. Are you going to run to a moderator and get the thread closed? The bad cop routine is weak and best served elsewhere.

As I like to say from time to time...."it's just audio gear and today's good stuff is tomorrow's garbage."

So relax, peoples.

And happy new year to all.

Ron
...happy new year back at you Rob... :). We may not agree on some things but as Elvis Costello said "(What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding"..
I will interject anywhere I desire and anytime I feel the need, and if this irks you so what. Remember you are just another member, nothing more and nothing less.

At least you got one thing right. That is your right as it is mine. Funny you should mention irony because you have done nothing but play bad cop in the Emotiva threads. I guess it's okay for you to "set things straight" as you so eloquently put it. Aren't double standards grand?

To the OP, sorry I got this thread off track. Hopefully you will get the information you need. I will not reply again and will leave the last word to Mr. last word himself.
...happy new year back at you Rob... :). We may not agree on some things but as Elvis Costello said "(What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding"..
"I will not reply again and will leave the last word to Mr. last word himself."

Well thank you for your being so thoughtful. Since you had nothing to offer I am sure your apology will be accepted.

"Aren't double standards grand?"

Yea, especially when the one who comments about whining does more whining than a little girl with her pig tail stuck in a screen door.
I have owed both the Anthem 30, and the UMC 1.

The Anthem runs flawless, and sounds great. If you dont care about HDMI, HD audio, and some sweet manual EQ's, keep your Athem...it is awesome.

Now, this is going to stir the pot. I feel the UMC 1 has INCREDIBLE sound. Ive also owned Bryston prepro's, Rotel Prepro's, Ayre top seperates and more. The Emo UMC is just as good in sound IMO. The manual EQ is better then ANY Ive ever seen. 31HZ-18khz 11 band EQ! Thats a nice range, and a bumb here and there makes all the difference. The UMC 1 has great features as well....the problem is not all work 100% as they should. Examples- shut off issues, default saved sound mode issues, slow hdmi switching, no turn off of enhanced bass when front are set to large(if your letting the UMC decode). Now, I have read most, if not all of these are fixed in the new .5 beta update....but I am waiting for the confirmed build which is to release anyday now. I can live with the issues. It really comes down to your setup. I do believe the next update will get it all right. I waited until about 3 weeks ago to buy mine....so mine runs pretty well. Some older units seam to have issue's. Mines great.
If they have no issues in new release all will be forgiven, but if they have even 1 I think thats 1 too many given their last laughable release. So either they have learned or they havent. The great thing about the net is they cant hide from the truth...........good or bad.
Tick tock Emo....................tick tock!
Sthomas....same story here. I waited for the bugs to settle and get cured. Now I have a processor that cost a fraction of what my previous units cost and I have tested it against the Onkyo directly.

If you cane about sound quality, go with the UMC-1. The bugs are gone for most people.

BTW, I have the Onkyo back because it's got an issue with Apple TV and my buddy wants me to do the update! Now try and get help from Onkyo to do it.

Cheers,

Rob
Chandnlz, you have not heard the UMC-1 vs. some of the "big" brands, so you don't know about the sound quality. All you know is that the unit had bugs that were worked out. This doesn't effect anyone buying one today.

With the UMC-1 now working well I've got to question what we get when we pay 2-6K for a processor. I've owned quite a few and heard others. So when Emotiva releases their killer processor (which may cost around 1200 dollars) I'm not worried about bugs as I won't be first in line. Bugs get fixed. Sound quality will be the issue. It will have to be better than the UMC-1 to be worth the change.

Cheers,

Rob