well, you show enough people the color black and someone is going to see blue. the nature of the beast. |
Here's what I can give you from my personal experience regarding the Definitions, that work in my crib: 10 feet from ear to speaker with the speakers 8 feet apart. Very slight toe-in. Maybe 15 degrees. Replaced the Zu spikes. They use crappy spikes. Replaced them with superior spikes from StarSound Technologies. Major difference. Carpet, hard floor? Your choice. Sound? It's been a year, and I'm loving them. More is revealed as time goes by. Quite an extraordinary trip. Made way for SET, and that is a real joy...call the Zuboys. They are great guys. Other Zu nauts should follow. I believe the Druids are more problematic in set-up as far as the floor etc. |
Audiofeil, there is a significant difference with different kinds of spikes. There are spikes and there are spikes. Kind of like silk ties and the like. The Zu boys have told me that their spikes are really not the best, and they were thinking of auditioning the Starsound points. Regardless of the type of floor, spikes make a difference in the sound one can get from any speaker. Put the spikes on the Audiopoint discs and it is easy to shift the speaker. They won't dig into the floor. On carpet? That's a major pain in the ass. Me? Wood under my Defs? Not in a million years. Not under any speaker... |
Miklorsmith, all kidding aside, give some "beefed up spikes" particularly Audiopoints a try. You have nothing to lose. Start looking to see if you have any thank you notes. :) Keep us posted when you do the deed, regardless of whose spikes you use....best, warren |
yes, I forgot the thread count per inch, but the Zu boys will give you the scoop. I purchased threaded spikes from Starsound. It's a common thread count.... |
macrojack, ignorance is bliss as you have shown, but then again, what could I expect. You are very naive. There are more speakers than you realize sitting upon inferior spikes... |
Thanks Undertow. You said it better than me. Yes indeed as far as the bass and midrange go. Macrojack order 8 spikes from Starsound. A couple hundred bucks. You splurged for the Def Pros, why not hear what kind of bass your Defs are capable of. Don't like them? They will refund your $$. I don't believe you'll want a refund. Wait 'til you hear what your midrange and bass sound like. Then tell me how Zu wouldn't put their speakers on inferior spikes? |
Mike, you're right. I will try my best to keep it to principles before personalites...I mean that...warren :) |
Why do we respond to his posts? Why give him this power? This just ain't worth it. :) |
Tvad, you his attorny? lover? big brother? give me a break...he got a mouth or have you taken over for him? |
I'm not Mother Teresa, but I'll work on it. I'm putting this baby to bed... |
Audiofeil, how do you know (audiopoints) are a waste of money? Have you tried them Why o why are Zu owners (any owners)so anti anything that may raise the Zu bar even higher. I hear, particularly in the midrange and bass, significant improvements with Audiopoints. That's the truth for these ears. After market spikes would probably be beneficial on many speakers. Even some of the big guns. |
how far apart are your speakers? Isn't how far back you sit dependent on how far apart your speakers are? I don't know: 13 feet? |
I suppose it's my preference, but playing around with distnace from speakers, usually leaves me (the further away I am)feeling less involved with the music. I rather feel like I'm in the music rather than the music being before me. My Definitios, too, are 8 feet apart, but 10 feet I find to be optimum. In fact, I'd move up a foot rather than back another foot if I had to make a choice. It's what works in my crib. Isn't that always they deal, anyway? Sweet looking rig, Undertow. Enjoy...peace, warren :) |
Miklorsmith, are you saying, even if the Definitions are 8 feet apart, 15 feet from the speakers is still "buttah?" |
Well that worked, (I had 15 feet plus to spare) but I eventually found that 10 feet did the job best for my ears... |
macrojack, what is the distance between your speakers? Isn't the distance of 12 feet dependent on that distance? |
Tvad, speaking of speakers, have you ever decided on what you were going to purchase? Way back you had a pretty lengthy thread with oodles of advice offered to you about good low wattage speakers. Other audiophools have asked you the same as to what you decided on: no repsonse from you. What gives? Just curious as to what you wound up with, or not. peace, warren :) |
