analog newbie


i am seriously considering getting into the world of analog playback. right now i lack a phono stage, but will likely purchase the tube stage for my rogue 99 preamp, to avoid the expense of a chasis and phono cables. i want to make sure vinyl is something i will continue to collect before making a real investment.
after the rogue phono stage is bought i will have little budget for a new turntable so i am considering using my fathers kenwood table that dates back to the early 1980's, i know it is operational as i used it at least once when i had a preamp w/ phono stage a few months ago.
a few years ago i replaced the cartridge with a grado model, about $50-60, don't recall what model.
i am concerned about damaging some of my lps, particularly about a dozen or so blues lps that were hard to find (hopkins, sonny terry, brownie mghee, memphis slim, furry lewis, etc) the vinyl seems to be in decent condition and i'd like to keep it that way.
so i figure i should replace the cartridge with a new one at about the same price point since this is no kick-ass table.
what can i do on a tight budget to protect my lps, most of which probably need to be cleaned very well before another playback. i was using the simple discwasher system but i get the feeling this was removing surface dust only, and moving it around more than from the lp surface.
can anyone recommend a handwash regimen, in detail as i am a vinyl neophyte, or some other tried and true lp maintenance system to prolong/preserve lp playback?
or am i simply better off with a cleaning machine? some seem to prefer handwashing for truly dirty lps i think and machines for basic maintenance thereafter, do i have this right?
also, what basic tools/accessories should i have on hand for vinyl playback, now or in the future as my budget allows me to become more and more serious.

down the road, if i find vinyl to be something i enjoy, i currently plan on purchasing a basis/graham combo with a decent cartridge from dynavector, ortofon, etc.
fujindemon

Showing 7 responses by lazarus28

don't use *any* kind of wet-cleaning system without a vacuum. there are those who disagree with me, but it's been my experience that if you wash it without sucking it out, then the dirt just seeps deeper into the grooves and is harder to remove later. get a nitty gritty record cleaner. they're wonderful little machines and they reduce the noise floor on dirty lp's. but, also use them sparingly. the best way to clean an lp is to let the stylus collect the dust, and then to clean it from the stylus.
nitty gritty does not scratch records unless you mix sand or broken glass into the cleaning solution.

the library of congress uses them to keep their classic vinyl clean. they wouldn't do so if it were scratching them.

besides that, i know from firsthand experience that they don't.

don't use a wet system without a vacuum. you're just moving the dirt from the surface (where it's okay to to have it) into the grooves (where it will make noise).
ya know natalie, there may be a better way than a vacuum, but i can't imagine it getting too much cleaner.

turtle wax protects your car a bit better and makes it shinier, but it takes a crapload of work to put it on and buff it off. using a spraywax gives you similar benefits with a fraction of the work.

and i like fast-food. there *is* an art to it.

and lazarus has two a's, not two u's.
in the audio realm there is a lot of room for OPINION. (gasp!)

don't act like you're the be-all end-all expert in an area where opinions vary wildly and you won't *have* to 'get on' anyone. your initial response was curt and rude and you even threw in an insult for good measure. your second made no apologies for the first, with you instead acting as though i were some misbehaving serf whom you graced by coming down off of your throne to set straight. you've never even responded to a post of mine before. you can disagree all you would like. you can believe that i'm the biggest idiot on the face of planet, i don't mind. but to post such an angry response over something so trivial? i've never even spoken to you before.

and we wonder why people view hifi enthusiasts as elitists?!? we can't even stand eachother. just look at the 'high-end speaker for rap music' thread. . . .
psychic-

the hockey reference was meant to be humorous, as was your post. i'm not at all upset.

and just out of curiosity, do you use one of those personal-coachy-folks? i've heard of 'em, but only in passing on npr. . . .