Am I the only one who thinks B&W is mid-fi?


I know that title sounds pretencious. By all means, everyones taste is different and I can grasp that. However, I find B&W loudspeakers to sound extremely Mid-fi ish, designed with sort of a boom and sizzle quality making it not much better than retail quality brands. At price point there is always something better than it, something musical, where the goals of preserving the naturalness and tonal balance of sound is understood. I am getting tired of people buying for the name, not the sound. I find it is letting the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. In these times of dying 2 channel, and the ability to buy a complete stereo/home theater at your local blockbuster, all of the brands that should make it don't. Most Hi-fi starts with a retail system and with that type of over-processed, boom and sizzle sound (Boom meaning a spike at 80Hz and sizzle meaning a spike at 10,000Hz). That gives these rising enthuists a false impression of what hi-fi is about. Thus, the people who cater to that falseified sound, those who design audio, forgetting the passion involved with listening, putting aside all love for music just to put a nickle in the pig...Well are doing a good job. Honestly, it is just wrong. Thanks for the read...I feel better. Prehaps I just needed to vent, but I doubt it. Music is a passion of mine, and I don't want to have to battle in 20 yrs to get equipment that sounds like music. Any comments?
mikez

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Perhaps you have not seriously listened to the mid-fi speakers that are available. I recently purchased some NHT Super One speakers that were dealer demo's because I was looking for an inexpensive set that I could live with while my favorites were being repaired. In the process I have recently listened to Yamaha, Sony, JBL, Polk, Klipsch, Boston Acoustic, and Infinity. I ended up buying the Boston Acoustics but returned them because the sound, while initially promising proved harsh (sizzle? it seemed even worse than that and did not improve despite continuous play for three days) and impossible to listen to for an extended period. (I also bought them because they had binding posts that would accept my banana plugs and not the inexpensive spring clips that most of the other speakers had!) All of these speakers except the Boston's had "boom problems" as you say to varying degrees.

Since my speakers are still in the shop (3 months and I've given up hope), I am currently looking for new speakers. On the B&W speakers there is a tremendous difference as you go up the range. The low end 300 bookshelf size has a very slight boom in the bass, and a few other minor problems that result from compromises at their cost. The 602 S2 had a slight boom in the bass. When I auditioned it there was also quite a bit of port chuffing noise on some material, but this may not be the case with better amplifiction. Both of these speakers were far better than any of the mid-fi speakers that I listened to.

On the higher priced B&W speakers, the CDM1-NT also had a slight boom in the bass and very slight sizzle in the highs (perhaps not broken in yet). The B&W CM2 and CM4 have none of the bass boom problems and acceptable highs, but have problems with a muddy upper midrange on complex material. The Nautilus 805 has the silkyest highs I have heard from a speaker as well as holographic imaging, but still has some boom in the bass. (I prefer the word bloom because it is just a few bass notes that are very slightly overdone.) With the Nautilus 805's I was drawn into the music and wanted to listen longer than I had time for at the moment. I am considering purchasing them, but I must listen to several others in their price range before I make my decision.

I agree with one of the above comments that B&W speakers are very revealing of inadequate front end equipment. I think a high current amplifier that has tight control of the lower octaves (probably not cheap!) would be a good match for the B&W's from the 600 series on up. As for the high notes, I urge you to postpone your judgement until you have heard a Nautilus series speaker (or any speaker with a Nautilus tweeter) that has been properly broken in. This reportedly takes forever (months???) and many dealers do not have a product playing for long enough to do this (for obvious reasons).